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《画见》这本书主要是我（退休后）二十多年来

What I See in Paintings mainly contains some thoughts of mine

kàn huà de yī xiē gǎn xiǎng

看画的一些感想

When I appreciated paintings in the past two decades (after my retirement)

wǒ xuǎn le sì gè tí mù

我选了四个题目

I selected four subjects

fēn bié jiào nǚ rén dà zì rán mèng hé shí dài

分别叫《女人》、《大自然》、《梦》和《时代》

Namely Women, Nature, Dream, and Era

qǐ diǎn shì mǎ nài

起点是马奈

The book starts from Manet

dào dà gài shàng yī shì jì wǔ shí nián dài zuǒ yòu

到大概上一世纪五十年代左右

In around the 1950s

qián hòu dà gài shì yī bǎi lái nián de

前后大概是一百来年的

And spans over a hundred years

yǐ huà wèi yī gè chuāng kǒu

以画为一个窗口

Taking paintings as a sort of window

kàn de kě néng shì guān yú shěn měi guān yú rén shēng de yī xiē xiǎng fǎ

看的可能是关于审美，关于人生的一些想法

The book is about art or thoughts of life

yǐ qián de měi dōu gēn shàn shì lián xì zài yī qǐ

以前的美都跟善是联系在一起

In the past beauty was connected with kindness

mǎ nài zuì zǎo huà de zhè gè cǎo dì shàng de wǔ cān hé ào lín pǐ yà

马奈最早画的这个《草地上的午餐》和《奥林匹亚》

Manet’s early works Le déjeuner sur l'herbe and Olympia

zài yī piàn cǎo dì shàng tū rán yǒu yī gè luǒ tǐ de nǚ rén

在一片草地上，突然有一个裸体的女人

In a lawn, a nude woman suddenly appeared

tā zài yī xiē yī guān chǔ chǔ de nán rén hé nǚ rén zhī jiān

她在一些衣冠楚楚的男人和女人之间

She looked not so decent

yī gè bù tài zhèng jīng de yī gè rén

一个不太正经的一个人

Among those neatly dressed men and women

tā tū rán chéng wèi huì huà de yī gè zhǔ tǐ le

她突然成为绘画的一个主体了

She suddenly became the subject of the painting

duì yú dāng shí zhěng gè de shěn měi qù wèi de yī gè tiāo zhàn

对于当时整个的审美趣味的一个挑战

It was a challenge to the aesthetic taste back to then

dāng shí dà jiā jiù shòu bù le le

当时大家就受不了了

People couldn’t accept it

xiàn dài měi shù shǐ jiù shì cóng zhè ér kāi shǐ kě yǐ shuō

现代美术史就是从这儿开始，可以说

And the history of modern art started there

rán hòu zài wǎng xià yī bù měi jiù gēn è jié hé zài yī qǐ le

然后再往下一步，美就跟恶结合在一起了

Then to the next stage beauty got involved with evil

tú lú zī luò tè léi kè tā huà de nǚ rén shì nà zhǒng

图卢兹洛特雷克，他画的女人是那种

Toulouse-Lautrec painted a woman

zài wǔ chǎng shàng tiào wǔ de nǚ rén jīn pí lì jǐn

在舞场上跳舞的女人，筋疲力尽

Who danced on a square until exhausted

ér qiě nà gè yàng zi zán men kě yǐ shuō shì hěn chǒu

而且那个样子，咱们可以说是很丑

And she looked, I might say ugly

tā yīng gāi shuō shì zài huà nǚ rén shǐ shàng yī gè huà shí dài de rén wù

他应该说是，在画女人史上一个划时代的人物

He should be an epoch-making figure in the history of women paintings

yuán lái nà gè měi bù kě kào le bù měi kě néng chéng wèi zhǔ tǐ

原来那个美不可靠了，不美可能成为主体

Unattractiveness became a subject

dào le bǐ ěr zī lì

到了比尔兹利

When it came to Beardsley

nà gè nǚ rén gēn nà gè è jié hé zài yī qǐ le

那个女人跟那个恶结合在一起了

Women were connected with evil

tā men shēn shàng jiù shì yǒu yī zhǒng xiàng nà gè dú zhī sì jiàn de nà me zhǒng gǎn jué

她们身上就是有一种像那个毒汁四溅的那么种感觉

There seemed to be venom splashing over the body

nà zài dào le méng kè

那再到了蒙克

Then in Munch’s paintings

zhè gè nǚ rén chéng wèi zhè gè shì jiè shàng de yī gè

这个女人成为这个世界上的一个

Women became a source of all the disasters

suǒ yǒu de zāi nán de yī gè lái yuán

所有的灾难的一个来源

On the world

hǎo duō rén yǒu shí hòu qù kàn huà

好多人有时候去看画

Sometimes people saw the paintings

tā yǒu yī gè hěn dà de yī gè zhàng ài

它有一个很大的一个障碍

And lots of them felt a big obstacle

jiù shì shuō zhè huà zěn me bù měi

就是说这画怎么不美

Because they saw no beauty

tā què shí shěn měi guān niàn zài biàn huà

它确实审美观念在变化

Aesthetic taste was changing

zài zhè gè shí qī wǒ men zhè gè shì jiè fā shēng de shì tài duō tài dà

在这个时期，我们这个世界发生的事太多，太大

At that time the world witnessed too many major events

xiàng yī zhàn zhè guò qù méi jiàn guò zhè me duō rén juǎn rù yī gè zhàn zhēng

像一战，这过去没见过这么多人卷入一个战争

Such as the World War I. People had never seen so many people engaged in a single war

nà bāo kuò tā men huà de nǚ rén de nà gè zhuàng kuàng dōu yǒu zhè gè chéng xiàn

那包括他们画的女人的那个状况，都有这个呈现

The women they painted also reflected the reality

wǒ zì jǐ zuì xǐ huān de qí shí hái shì huì huà lǐ biān yǒu yī gè rén shēng de gǎn chù

我自己最喜欢的其实还是绘画里边有一个人生的感触

What I like the most is that you can see understanding of life in paintings

pà sī jīn

帕斯金

Pascin

tā huà de zhè gè nǚ rén jiù shì jì nǚ nà zhǒng jiǎo sè

他画的这个女人，就是妓女那种角色

He painted prostitutes

zhè rén zhēn de shì kuài bèi shēng huó gěi yā kuǎ le

这人真的是快被生活给压垮了

People who nearly collapsed under pressure

hái nǔ lì dì zài zhè ér bǎo chí zhù yī gè xiǎo xiǎo de nà zhǒng zì wǒ de shì jiè

还努力地在这儿保持著一个小小的那种自我的世界

Were still trying to keep a world of their own

wǒ jué dé jiù shì bǎ zán men zhè gè rén shēng lǐ miàn de yǒu nà gè zhuàng tài zhǎn xiàn chū lái le

我觉得就是把咱们这个人生里面的有那个状态（展现出来了）

I think the paintings show states of life

wǒ xiě de zhè yī duàn shí qī zhè lǐ biān

我写的这一段（时期）这里边

In this period from my point of view

gēn wǒ men kàn de gǔ diǎn huì huà nà xiē guì fù rén bù yī yàng

跟我们看的古典绘画那些贵妇人不一样

It was no longer about the noblewomen in the classical paintings

bǐ fāng fàn gǔ

比方梵谷

For example, Vincent van Gogh

tā zuì yǒu míng de huà jiào chī tǔ dòu de rén

他最有名的画叫《吃土豆的人》

His most famous painting is the Potato Eaters

nà xiē nǚ rén gēn nán rén méi yǒu shén me qū bié

那些女人跟男人没有什么区别

Those women were no different from men

jiān nán dé néng chī yī dùn fàn jiù hěn bù cuò de rén

艰难得能吃一顿饭就很不错的人

It was nice to them if they could have a meal

shuō shì huà nǚ rén dōu shì rén shēng

说是画女人，都是人生

Although with women as the subject, the paintings were actually about life

wǒ men kàn de shì yī gè yī gè shěn měi de duì xiàng

我们看的是一个一个审美的对象

The aesthetic subjects in front of our eyes

shí jì shàng tā shì yī gè yī gè rén shēng de tǐ yàn

实际上它是一个一个人生的体验

Are actually life experiences

shí dài zhè bù fēn wǒ xiǎng tǎo lùn de shì yī gè

《时代》这部分我想讨论的是一个

As for the part Era, I want to discuss

zài yī gè huà jiā xīn mù zhōng wǒ men zhè gè shí dài

在一个画家心目中，我们这个时代

The overall appearance of an era

zhěng tǐ de miàn mào shì shén me

整体的面貌是什么

In a painter’s heart

méng kè nà gè jiān jiào

蒙克那个《尖叫》

The Scream by Munch

dà gài zhǐ yǒu nà gè mǐ kāi lǎng jī luó sù zào de nà gè dà wèi nà gè xíng xiàng

大概只有那个米开朗基罗塑造的那个大卫那个形象

The statue David by Michelangelo is probably the only comparable work

kě yǐ gēn tā xiāng bǐ

可以跟它相比

To the painting

jiǎ rú bǎ wǒ men zhè gè shí dài rén jí zhōng qǐ lái

假如把我们这个时代人集中起来

If we gather the people in that era

gài kuò wǒ men zhěng gè jīng shén zhuàng kuàng de huà

概括我们整个精神状况的话

And summarize their mentality with something

yīng gāi jiù shì méng kè zhè gè xíng xiàng

应该就是蒙克这个形象

It should be like the painting by Munch

jiù shì tā bèi zhè gè shì jiè xià huài le

就是他被这个世界吓坏了

He was scared by the world

tā bù zhī dào zhè gè shì jiè xià biān hái yào fā shēng shén me

他不知道这个世界下边还要发生什么

He didn’t know what would come in the future

zhè gè shí dài tā méi fǎ rěn shòu

这个时代他没法忍受

He couldn’t stand the era

méng kè shì yī gè jīng lì le yī zhàn hé èr zhàn de rén

蒙克是一个经历了一战和二战的人

Munch went through World War I and World War II

dàn shì méng kè zhè gè huà huà de shí hòu

但是蒙克这个画画的时候

But when he drew the work

zhè liǎng gè zhàn zhēng gēn běn hái méi yǒu ne

这两个战争根本还没有呢

The two wars hadn’t started yet

tā huà de shì yī gè xiān zhī de xíng xiàng

他画的是一个先知的形象

He painted a prophet

rú guǒ shuō zhè gè huà wǎn yī bǎi nián chū xiàn

如果说这个画晚一百年出现

If the painting appeared one hundred years later

kě néng tā jiù méi yǒu nà me dà de yì yì

可能它就没有那么大的意义

It probably wouldn’t be so meaningful

yì shù jiā gēn fēi yì shù jiā yǒu yī gè chà yì

艺术家跟非艺术家有一个差异

There’s one difference between artists and non-artists

zán men zhè rén biǎo miàn shǒu biǎo miàn yǒu yī céng pí

咱们这人表面，手表面有一层皮

We have a layer of skin on hands

yì shù jiā shì shén me rén

艺术家是什么人

As for artists

tā shì méi yǒu zhè céng pí de tā zhè shén jīng zhí jiē lù zài wài biān

他是没有这层皮的，他这神经直接露在外边

They don’t have the skin. Their nerves are exposed

suǒ yǐ fēng yī chuī nǐ jué dé lěng tā jué dé téng

所以风一吹你觉得冷，他觉得疼

So when there’s wind, we feel cold and they feel hurt

tā men shì zhè me yī zhǒng rén

他们是这么一种人

They’re such a type of people

nà wǒ men kàn nà gè huà de shí hòu

那我们看那个画的时候

When we look at the painting

wǒ men yě dé bǎ zhè céng pí bō diào

我们也得把这层皮剥掉

We need to rip off that layer of skin as well

fǎ guó yǒu yī gè zuò jiā jiào jiā móu

法国有一个作家叫加缪

The French writer Camus

tā shuō zhòng yào de bù shì huó dé zuì hǎo ér shì huó dé zuì duō

他说重要的不是活得最好，而是活得最多

He said living your life to the fullest is more important than living your life to the best

wǒ jué dé wǒ jiù tè xiǎng zuò yī gè huó dé duō de rén

我觉得我就特想做一个活得多的人

I think I want to live my life to the fullest

dú shū yě shì yī yàng kàn huà yě shì yī yàng

读书也是一样，看画也是一样

It’s the same with reading and appreciating paintings

rén xiàn zài dōu tè bié máng

人现在都特别忙

Nowadays people are really busy

zhè gè shí jiān dé kào zì jǐ jǐ chū lái

这个时间得靠自己挤出来

You have to make the time by yourself

wǒ nián qīng de shí hòu wǒ zài yī yuàn shàng bān

我年轻的时候我在医院上班

When I was young, I worked in a hospital

wǒ měi tiān qù de lù shàng wǒ dōu ná yī běn shū

我每天去的路上我都拿一本书

Every day I took a book with me on the way to work

gōng gòng qì chē jǐ de shí hòu wǒ bǎ zhè shū jǔ dào chē dǐng shàng kàn

公共汽车挤的时候，我把这书举到车顶上看

When the bus was really crowded, I would raise the book over my head to read

děng wǒ zhēn de cí zhí huí jiā le wǒ kàn dé hái méi yǐ qián duō

等我真的辞职回家了，我看得还没以前多

But when I really resigned and stayed at home, I read less book than before

nà shí hòu yīn wèi tā nà shí jiān bǎo guì suǒ yǐ tā gèng hǎo

那时候因为它那时间宝贵，所以它更好

Because time was precious in the past, so it was better

dé yǒu diǎn jī diàn de dōng xī dé yǒu diǎn bù biàn de nà zhǒng dōng xī zài nǎo zi lǐ

得有点积淀的东西，得有点不变的那种东西在脑子里

You need something that is profound and unchanged in your mind

zhè xiē dōng xī bù shì wǎng shàng dōu néng qīng yì huò dé de

这些东西不是网上都能轻易获得的

Those can’t be easily obtained from the internet

suǒ yǐ wǒ men chú le shàng wǎng zhī wài hái yào dú shū hái yào kàn huà

所以我们除了上网之外，还要读书，还要看画

So besides surfing the internet, we still need to read and appreciate paintings