【一席】李玫瑾：心理的迷失 Psychological loss

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2014.07.22 北京李玫瑾. 心理的迷失

2014.07.22 Beijing Li Meijin. Psychological Loss

fàn zuì xīn lǐ de zhè yàng yī gè yán jiū

犯罪心理的这样一个研究

A study of criminal psychology

shuō jù shí huà zài wǒ shàng dà xué de shí hòu

说句实话在我上大学的时候

To be honest, when I was in college

wǒ shì dú zhé xué de

我是读哲学的

I study philosophy

wǒ cóng lái méi yǒu xiǎng dào guò zì jǐ yī bèi zi

我从来没有想到过自己一辈子

I never thought of myself forever

huì cóng shì fàn zuì xīn lǐ yán jiū

会从事犯罪心理研究

Will engage in criminal psychology research

nà me dào nián de shí hòu wǒ lái dào zhè gè dān wèi

那么到82年的时候我来到这个单位

Then I came to this unit in 1982

dāng shí ne wǒ

当时呢我

At that time i

wǒ gōng zuò de dì yī nián shì gēn xíng zhēn jú zhǎng zài yī kuài ér xué xí

我工作的第一年是跟刑侦局长在一块儿学习

My first year of work was to study with the chief of criminal investigation

nà me xíng zhēn jú zhǎng kāi shǐ tí chū le zhè yàng yī gè wèn tí

那么刑侦局长开始提出了这样一个问题

Then the chief of criminal investigation began to raise this question

jiù shì shuō xiàn zài zhè xiē hái zi wèi shén me fàn zuì zhè me yán zhòng

就是说现在这些孩子为什么犯罪这么严重

In other words, why are these children committing such serious crimes?

ér qiě xíng wèi fēi cháng de kě pà

而且行为非常的可怕

And the behavior is terrible

tā men dào dǐ shì shén me yàng de xīn lǐ wèn tí

他们到底是什么样的心理问题

What kind of psychological problems are they

nà dāng shí tā men gēn wǒ jiǎng

那当时他们跟我讲

Then they told me

xiǎo lǐ lǎo shī a yǐ hòu nǐ lái yán jiū yán jiū zhè gè wèn tí jiù hǎo le

小李老师啊以后你来研究研究这个问题就好了

Teacher Xiao Li, just come to study this issue in the future

suǒ yǐ zhè shì wǒ hòu lái jìn le jiào yán shì yǐ hòu

所以这是我后来进了教研室以后

So this is after I joined the teaching and research section

xuǎn zé zhè yàng yī gè zhuān yè de yuán yīn

选择这样一个专业的原因

Reasons for choosing such a profession

nà me dào le nián wǒ yīn wèi

那么到了92年我因为

So in 1992 I was because

wǒ men dān wèi yǒu yī gè guī dìng jiù shì

我们单位有一个规定就是

Our unit has a rule

cóng shì gōng ān zhuān yè de hěn duō rén

从事公安专业的很多人

Many people engaged in public security

shì fēi gōng ān zhuān yè bì yè de

是非公安专业毕业的

Graduated from a non-public security major

suǒ yǐ yào dào jī céng qù dài shàng yī nián

所以要到基层去待上一年

So I have to stay at the grassroots level for a year

yú shì ne wǒ dāng shí jiù dào le shān dōng qīng dǎo

于是呢我当时就到了山东青岛

So I went to Qingdao, Shandong

qù le tā de yī gè gōng ān jú

去了它的一个公安局

Went to one of its public security bureaus

nà me dào gōng ān jú zhī hòu ne

那么到公安局之后呢

What about after arriving at the Public Security Bureau

wǒ zuì kāi shǐ xiān qù de yù shěn

我最开始先去的预审

I went to the pre-trial first

yù shěn ne dāng shí

预审呢当时

At that time

yǒu yī gè shī fù xìng sū tā dài zhe wǒ

有一个师父姓苏他带着我

There was a master whose surname was Su and he took me

wǒ jì dé dì yī cì gēn zhe tā dào zhè gè jiān suǒ

我记得第一次跟着他到这个监所

I remember following him to this prison for the first time

qù jiàn yī gè xián yí rén shì yī gè suì de nán hái

去见一个嫌疑人是一个17岁的男孩

To meet a suspect who is a 17-year-old boy

tā ne shì yīn wèi qiǎng jié

他呢是因为抢劫

He was because of robbery

nà me zhè gè nán hái ne tā jìn lái yǐ hòu ne

那么这个男孩呢他进来以后呢

What about this boy after he comes in

dūn zuò zài dì shàng de yī gè shí tóu shàng

蹲坐在地上的一个石头上

Squatting on a rock on the ground

děng tā zǒu le yǐ hòu wǒ gēn shī fù jiǎng

等他走了以后我跟师傅讲

After he leaves, I will tell the master

āi yōu wǒ shuō kàn tā mán lǎo shí de

哎呦我说看他蛮老实的

Oh, I said he was pretty honest

shī fù shuō nǐ bù zhī dào

师傅说你不知道

Master said you don't know

tā zhè yǐ jīng shì dì èr cì le

他这已经是第二次了

This is his second time

tā dì yī cì jiù shì qiǎng jié

他第一次就是抢劫

The first time he was robbed

zhè shì dì èr cì

这是第二次

This is the second time

nǐ bié kàn tā xiǎo gāng shí qī suì

你别看他小刚十七岁

Don't look at him Xiaogang is seventeen

tā shì sān gè tuán huǒ dāng zhōng de tóu zi

他是三个团伙当中的头子

He is the leader of the three gangs

shuō kě xiōng le

说可凶了

It's fierce

ná zhe dà mǎ dāo kǎn nà gè guò lù de sī jī

拿着大马刀砍那个过路的司机

Slashing the passing driver with a big saber

yīn wèi tā qiǎng jié ne shì zài yī gè

因为他抢劫呢是在一个

Because he robbed in a

gōng lù shàng zhuān mén lán qiǎng

公路上专门拦抢

Special interception on the highway

zhǎng tú huò yùn chē

长途货运车

Long-distance freight car

nà me hòu lái wǒ jì dé wǒ dì èr gè àn jiàn bàn de shì

那么后来我记得我第二个案件办的是

Then I remembered that my second case was

yī gè suì de nán hái qiáng jiān àn

一个19岁的男孩强奸案

The rape of a 19-year-old boy

wǒ kàn dào tā dì yī yǎn shì yòu shòu yòu xiǎo

我看到他第一眼是又瘦又小

I saw him as thin and small at first sight

nà zhǒng nuò ruò rán hòu nà zhǒng yǎn guāng de wú zhù

那种懦弱然后那种眼光的无助

That kind of cowardice and that kind of helplessness

rán hòu nà zhǒng kě lián bā bā kàn zhe zhōu wéi rén

然后那种可怜巴巴看着周围人

Then look at the people around me pitifully

wǒ dāng shí yòu jué dé tā tè bié kě lián

我当时又觉得他特别可怜

I thought he was very pitiful

dàn shì hòu lái ne yīn wèi wǒ shì gè nǚ xìng

但是后来呢因为我是个女性

But then because I am a female

wǒ de shī fù jiù shuō

我的师父就说

My master said

nà me bèi hài rén de zhè gè tā de xùn wèn bǐ lù nǐ lái zuò

那么被害人的这个她的讯问笔录你来做

Then you can do this transcript of the victim's interrogation

dāng zhè gè bèi hài nǚ hái chū xiàn zài wǒ miàn qián de shí hòu

当这个被害女孩出现在我面前的时候

When the victim girl appeared in front of me

wǒ zhēn de jīng dāi le

我真的惊呆了

I was really shocked

yīn wèi zhè gè nǚ hái bèi tā qiā dé

因为这个女孩被他掐得

Because this girl was pinched by him

yǎn zhū zi shì hóng de

眼珠子是红的

Eyes are red

rán hòu bó zi zhè gè dì fāng dōu shì zǐ de

然后脖子这个地方都是紫的

And the neck is all purple

yě jiù shì shuō zhè gè nǚ hái dāng shí tā shì shàng cè suǒ

也就是说这个女孩当时她是上厕所

In other words, this girl was in the bathroom

rán hòu zhè gè nán hái wěi suí tā jìn qù

然后这个男孩尾随她进去

Then the boy followed her in

nǚ hái pīn mìng fǎn kàng zhè nán de jiù qiā tā de bó zi

女孩拼命反抗这男的就掐她的脖子

The girl desperately resisted the man and choked her neck

yīn wèi zhè nǚ hái tā shì zài bái tiān

因为这女孩她是在白天

Because this girl is in the daytime

suī rán gōng dì shàng rén hěn shǎo

虽然工地上人很少

Although there are few people on the construction site

dàn shì tā de hǎn jiào hái shì jīng dòng bié rén le

但是她的喊叫还是惊动别人了

But her yelling still alarmed others

rán hòu bié rén gǎn guò lái

然后别人赶过来

Then others rushed over

zhè gè nǚ hái cái jiǎo xìng méi yǒu bèi tā qiā sǐ

这个女孩才侥幸没有被他掐死

This girl was lucky not to be choked to death by him

nà me wǒ kàn dào zhè gè nǚ hái de shí hòu wǒ cái jué dé

那么我看到这个女孩的时候我才觉得

So when I saw this girl, I felt

kàn zhe yī gè hěn shòu xiǎo de fàn zuì rén

看着一个很瘦小的犯罪人

Looking at a very thin criminal

jū rán yǒu zhè me dà de zhè zhǒng hěn jìn ér

居然有这么大的这种狠劲儿

There is such a strong force

suǒ yǐ cóng zhè shí hòu kāi shǐ wǒ jiù zhī dào

所以从这时候开始我就知道

So from then on I knew

zhè gè fàn zuì rén tā qí shí

这个犯罪人他其实

This criminal actually

bù xiàng wǒ men xiǎng xiàng de

不像我们想象的

Not like we thought

nà me hòu lái ne wǒ dào le bàn nián zhī hòu

那么后来呢我到了半年之后

So then I arrived half a year later

wǒ dào le pài chū suǒ cóng yù shěn dào pài chū suǒ

我到了派出所从预审到派出所

I went to the police station from the pre-trial to the police station

nà me wǒ zài pài chū suǒ lǐ tóu ne

那么我在派出所里头呢

Then I'm in the police station

yě kāi shǐ jiē chù zhè zhǒng gè zhǒng gè yàng de àn jiàn

也开始接触这种各种各样的案件

Also began to come into contact with such various cases

ér qiě jiàn gè zhǒng gè yàng de rén

而且见各种各样的人

And meet all kinds of people

zhè gè shuō jù shí huà

这个说句实话

Tell the truth

wǒ yě yù dào guò nǚ de xián fàn

我也遇到过女的嫌犯

I have also met a female suspect

zhè nǚ de xián fàn ne shì zài

这女的嫌犯呢是在

This woman's suspect is

gēn nǐ shuō huà de shí hòu zhè tóu fā zhē zhù bàn biān liǎn

跟你说话的时候这头发遮住半边脸

This hair covers half of my face when I talk to you

rán hòu jī běn bù kàn wǒ jiù kàn wǒ nà gè nán de shī fù

然后基本不看我就看我那个男的师父

Then basically don’t look at me, just look at my male master

rán hòu yǎn jīng mèi yǎn yī gè mèi yǎn jiē yī gè mèi yǎn de

然后眼睛媚眼一个媚眼接一个媚眼的

Then the eyes wink one wink after another wink

rán hòu ne nǐ yào yù dào nán de xián yí fàn

然后呢你要遇到男的嫌疑犯

Then you have to meet the male suspect

nà jiù wán quán bù tóng fēng gé le

那就完全不同风格了

It's a completely different style

nà yǎn guāng xiōng hěn dì dèng zhe nǐ

那眼光凶狠地瞪着你

Staring at you fiercely

nǐ néng ná wǒ zěn me yàng

你能拿我怎么样

What can you do with me

jiù shì nǐ kàn tā de yǎn guāng yǒu shí hòu gǎn jué dào

就是你看他的眼光有时候感觉到

It’s just that you sometimes feel when you look at him

nǐ hái zhēn bié dé zuì tā

你还真别得罪他

You really don't offend him

bié dào shí hòu yào shì tā chū qù

别到时候要是他出去

Don't let him go out

dào shí hòu bào fù nǐ zěn me bàn

到时候报复你怎么办

What should I do if I retaliate against you?

suǒ yǐ nà gè shí hòu wǒ kāi shǐ gǎn jué dào jiù shì

所以那个时候我开始感觉到就是

So at that time I started to feel

fàn zuì de zhè gè xīn lǐ xiàn xiàng

犯罪的这个心理现象

The psychological phenomenon of crime

tā yǒu yī gè jiào shēng de hé shú de de wèn tí

它有一个叫「生的」和「熟的」的问题

It has a problem called "raw" and "cooked"

suǒ wèi shú jiù shì shuō tā yǐ jīng bèi zuò hǎo le xiàn chéng de le

所谓「熟」就是说它已经被做好了现成的了

The so-called "cooked" means that it has been prepared and ready-made

nà me zuò hǎo de yī bān jiù shì zuì zhèng yǐ jīng qiāo dìng

那么做好的一般就是罪证已经敲定

So what is generally done is that the evidence has been finalized

rán hòu fǎ tíng yǐ jīng pàn jué

然后法庭已经判决

Then the court has already decided

suǒ yǐ wǒ men yī bān jiàn dào de jiù shì

所以我们一般见到的就是

So what we usually see is

zài jiān yù dāng zhōng de rén le

在监狱当中的人了

People in prison

nà me zhè xiē rén ne wǎng wǎng shì lǎo lǎo shí shí guī guī jǔ jǔ

那么这些人呢往往是老老实实规规矩矩

Then these people tend to be honest

kàn shàng qù fēi cháng kě lián

看上去非常可怜

Looks very pitiful

dàn shì rú guǒ nǐ zài zhēn chá jiē duàn

但是如果你在侦查阶段

But if you are in the investigation phase

yīn wèi méi yǒu yī gè rén yuàn yì zài zhè gè shí hòu

因为没有一个人愿意在这个时候

Because no one wants to be at this time

zhǔ dòng shuō wǒ shì yǒu zuì de

主动说我是有罪的

Take the initiative to say that I am guilty

wǒ shì yīng gāi bèi nǐ men zhuā zhù de

我是应该被你们抓住的

I should be caught by you

wǒ nǎ tiáo zuì kě yǐ bèi nǐ men

我哪条罪可以被你们…

Which of my sins can be taken by you...

rú guǒ yào zhēn zhè me shuō de huà

如果要真这么说的话

If you really want to say that

wǒ men dào huái yí tā yǒu bié de wèn tí le

我们倒怀疑他有别的问题了

We suspect he has other problems

suǒ yǐ jué dà duō shù fàn zuì rén shàng lái yǐ hòu

所以绝大多数犯罪人上来以后

So after most criminals come up

dōu shì shǔ yú

都是属于

Belong to

gēn nǐ néng dǐ lài dǐ lài gēn nǐ néng shuǎ héng jiù shuǎ héng

跟你能抵赖抵赖跟你（能）耍横就耍横

I can deny you, I can deny you

suǒ yǐ wǒ men jǐng chá ne

所以我们警察呢

So what about our police

yǒu de shí hòu shuō jù shí huà

有的时候说句实话

Sometimes tell the truth

nǐ yào méi yǒu yī diǎn diǎn de nà zhǒng

你要没有一点点的那种

You want a little bit

shēn shàng de yī zhǒng wǒ men jiào bà qì yě hǎo

身上的一种我们叫霸气也好

We call it domineering

jiào yī zhǒng gèng jiā de yǒng gǎn yǒng qì yě hǎo

叫一种更加的勇敢勇气也好

It's okay to be more brave and courage

nǐ jǐ hū yǒu shí hòu zhèn bù zhù zhè gè rén

你几乎有时候镇不住这个人

You can hardly hold this person sometimes

suǒ yǐ yǒu shí hòu wǒ men kāi wán xiào lǎo shuō zhè gè

所以有时候我们开玩笑老说这个

So sometimes we joke about this

hǎo de jǐng chá shēn shàng yǒu fěi qì

好的警察身上有匪气

Good policeman is gangster

dàn shì ne zhè yě zào jiù le yī gè wèn tí

但是呢这也造就了一个问题

But this also creates a problem

yīn wèi wǒ men zhuā de rén shí yǒu bā jiǔ dōu shì xián yí

因为我们抓的人十有八九都是嫌疑

Because the people we arrested are almost all suspects

suǒ yǐ jǐng chá zài zhè zhǒng qíng kuàng xià gēn tā qù jiāo fēng

所以警察在这种情况下跟他去交锋

So the police went to confront him in this situation

jiù xū yào yī dìng de

就需要一定的

You need a certain amount

yī gè wǒ men jiào xīn lì shàng de zhēng héng

一个我们叫心力上的争衡

One we call a mental balance

jiù shì qù jiào liàng

就是去较量

Just to compete

dāng rán jiào liàng yǒu shí hòu yě yǒu zhè zhǒng qíng kuàng

当然较量有时候也有这种情况

Of course, this is also the case sometimes

jiào jiǎ zuò zhēn lái zhēn yì jiǎ huò zhēn zuò jiǎ lái jiǎ yì zhēn

叫假作真来真亦假或真作假来假亦真

It's called false and true and true and false or true and false and false and true

shén me ne

什么呢

what

jiù shì kě néng wǒ men zài yī bǎi gè xián yí duì xiàng dāng zhōng

就是可能我们在一百个嫌疑对象当中

Maybe we are among a hundred suspects

què shí yǒu yī liǎng gè shì yuān wǎng de

确实有一两个是冤枉的

There are indeed one or two wronged

nà me yě jiù shì shuō tā bù shì zhēn de zuì fàn shì jiǎ de

那么也就是说他不是真的罪犯是假的

So that means he is not real, the criminal is fake

kě shì ne yīn wèi nǐ qián miàn jiàn de zhè zhǒng dǐ lài tài duō le

可是呢因为你前面见的这种抵赖太多了

But because you saw too much denial

suǒ yǐ zhēn de lái le yǐ hòu ne

所以真的来了以后呢

So when I really came

wǎng wǎng yǒu shí hòu nǐ yě hěn nán pàn dìng tā shì dǐ lài

往往有时候你也很难判定他是抵赖

Sometimes it’s hard for you to judge him as denial

hái shì jiù shì zhēn de bèi wěi qū le

还是就是真的被委屈了

Still really wronged

nà me zài zhè zhǒng bèi jǐng xià

那么在这种背景下

So in this context

wǒ dāng shí nián ma gōng zuò zhè yī nián

我当时 92年嘛工作这一年

I was in 1992 and worked this year

wǒ jiù zài xiǎng yī gè wèn tí

我就在想一个问题

I was thinking about a question

jiù shì xùn wèn ne yǒu shí hòu nán miǎn huì chū xiàn wèn tí

就是讯问呢有时候难免会出现问题

It's just interrogation. Sometimes problems will inevitably occur

wǒ men xū yào gèng duō de ne jiù shì

我们需要更多的呢就是

What we need more is

bù yào kào xùn wèn ér shì yào kào fēn xī

不要靠讯问而是要靠分析

Don’t rely on interrogation but on analysis

yú shì ne zài zhè zhī hòu

于是呢在这之后

So after this

wǒ kāi shǐ zhuǎn xiàng le yī gè fàn zuì xīn lǐ de xíng wèi fēn xī

我开始转向了一个犯罪心理的行为分析

I turned to a behavioral analysis of criminal psychology

zhè shí hòu kāi shǐ qù

这时候开始去

Start to go now

liú lǎn yī xiē guó wài de zī liào

浏览一些国外的资料

Browse some foreign materials

fā xiàn guó wài yǒu yī xiàng yán jiū jiù shì

发现国外有一项研究就是criminal profiling

I found that there is a study abroad that is Criminal Profiling

nà me diāo kè miáo xiě

那么雕刻描写

Then carved description

dāng shí wǒ jiù zài kàn tā de nèi róng

当时我就在看它的内容

I was watching its content

wǒ fā xiàn tā dà liàng de shì zuò fàn zuì rén de fēn xī

我发现它大量的是做犯罪人的分析

I found that it is a lot of analysis of criminals

bāo kuò tā de xíng wèi fēn xī

包括他的行为分析

Including his behavior analysis

zhè gè wèn tí ne hòu lái wǒ jiù kāi shǐ guān zhù

这个问题呢后来我就开始关注

I started to pay attention to this problem

yú shì yě yāo qǐng le wài guó zhuān jiā lái

于是也邀请了外国专家来

So I also invited foreign experts to come

nà me jǐ nián zhī hòu wǒ men fān yì le liǎng běn shū

那么几年之后我们翻译了两本书

So a few years later we translated two books

nà me hòu lái dāng shí zhèng hǎo gǎn shàng yě hěn qiǎo

那么后来当时正好赶上也很巧

Then it was a coincidence that it happened to catch up

zhè gè wǒ men xué xiào xiào qìng lái le yī pī jì zhě

这个我们学校校庆来了一批记者

A group of reporters came to our school anniversary

shuō jù shí huà wǒ men de xiào yuán hěn xiǎo

说句实话我们的校园很小

To be honest, our campus is very small

jì zhě zhuǎn bàn tiān jué dé yě méi shén me hǎo kàn de

记者转半天觉得也没什么好看的

The reporter didn't think there was anything good after a long time

gēn wǒ de xué shēng liáo tiān

跟我的学生聊天

Chat with my students

xué shēng shuō wǒ gēn wǒ de lǎo shī zài zuò yán jiū

学生说我跟我的老师在做研究

The student said I was doing research with my teacher

zuò shén me ne fàn zuì xīn lǐ huà xiàng

做什么呢犯罪心理画像

What do you do

jié guǒ jì zhě jiù tè bié gǎn xīng qù méi tīng shuō guò zhè gè cí

结果记者就特别感兴趣没听说过这个词

As a result, the reporter was particularly interested in having never heard of the term

rán hòu ne jiù shuō wǒ jiàn jiàn nǐ men de lǎo shī ba

然后呢就说我见见你们的老师吧

Then just say I see your teacher

wǒ méi xiǎng dào dì èr tiān wǔ jiā jì zhě quán fā le xīn wén

我没想到第二天五家记者全发了新闻

I didn’t expect all five reporters to post news the next day

zhè xīn wén yī fā yī xià jiù rè nào le

这新闻一发一下就热闹了

This news became lively as soon as it was released

qí zhōng zán men yǒu yī gè jì zhě yòng le yī gè biāo tí jiù shì

其中咱们有一个记者用了一个标题就是

One of our reporters used a title

shén me zhōng guó fàn zuì xīn lǐ huà xiàng dì yī rén

什么「中国犯罪心理画像第一人」

What "the first person in China's criminal psychology portrait"

wǒ kàn dào zhè gè biāo tí dāng shí wǎn shàng jiù shuì bù zhe jué le

我看到这个标题当时晚上就睡不着觉了

I couldn't sleep at night when I saw this title

wǒ kàn dào zhè gè biāo tí dāng shí wǎn shàng jiù shuì bù zhe jué le

yixi.tv 我看到这个标题当时晚上就睡不着觉了

YiXi.tv I could not sleep at night when I saw this title

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

gǎn jué dào zì jǐ xiàng zuò zài lǎo hǔ de shēn shàng

感觉到自己像坐在老虎的身上 yixi.tv

I feel like sitting on a tiger YiXi.tv

xià lái ne bèi yǎo sǐ

下来呢被咬死 yixi.tv

Coming down, I was killed by YiXi.tv

bù xià lái ne yě hěn wēi xiǎn

不下来呢也很危险 yixi.tv

It’s dangerous if you don’t come down. YiXi.tv

dāng shí gǎn jué dào jiù shì

当时感觉到就是 yixi.tv

At that time I felt like YiXi.tv

yīn wèi zhè gè dōng xī yě shì yī gè qǐ bù

因为这个东西也是一个起步 yixi.tv

Because this thing is also a start YiXi.tv

zài yán jiū de yī gè jiē duàn

在研究的一个阶段 yixi.tv

At a stage of research YiXi.tv

dāng shí zhè gè méi tǐ xuān chuán chū qù yǐ hòu ne

当时这个媒体宣传出去以后呢 yixi.tv

After the media was publicized at that time, YiXi.tv

jiù kāi shǐ yǒu wú shù de zhè gè

就开始有无数的这个 yixi.tv

There are countless YiXi.tv

yí nán àn jiàn de xíng zhēn lái zhǎo wǒ lái le

疑难案件的刑侦来找我来了 yixi.tv

Criminal investigators of difficult cases come to me YiXi.tv

dà jiā dōu zhī dào wǒ men yǐ wǎng de zhēn chá shǒu duàn

大家都知道我们以往的侦查手段 yixi.tv

Everyone knows our previous methods of investigation YiXi.tv

yī bān dōu shì cóng xiàn chǎng kāi shǐ

一般都是从现场开始 yixi.tv

YiXi.tv usually starts from the scene

nà me jì shù jiù shì zuì zhòng yào de

那么技术就是最重要的 yixi.tv

Then technology is the most important YiXi.tv

suǒ wèi jì shù ne bāo kuò zhǐ wén jiǎo yìn

所谓技术呢包括指纹脚印 yixi.tv

The so-called technology includes fingerprint footprint YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

hái yǒu hěn duō de fàn zuì de hén jì de tí qǔ

还有很多的犯罪的痕迹的提取 yixi.tv

There are still many traces of crimes extracted on YiXi.tv

yǐ jí fàn zuì xiàn chǎng de yī xiē cái liào de zhè xiē sōu suǒ

以及犯罪现场的一些材料的这些搜索 yixi.tv

And these searches for some materials at the crime scene on YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

nà me huí lái zhī hòu

那么回来之后 yixi.tv

Then after coming back, YiXi.tv

wǒ men hái yǒu yī xiàng yán jiū ne

我们还有一项研究呢 yixi.tv

We have another study on YiXi.tv

yī bān jiù yán jiū bèi hài

一般就研究被害 yixi.tv

Generally study the victimized YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

nà me zhè xiē yán jiū ne

那么这些研究呢 yixi.tv

What about these studies on YiXi.tv

yī bān wǒ men dōu shì fēi cháng jiǎng jiū kē xué de

一般我们都是非常讲究科学的 yixi.tv

Generally we are very scientific YiXi.tv

yě jiù shì tā kě yǐ zuò wèi zhèng jù

也就是它可以作为证据 yixi.tv

That is, it can be used as evidence YiXi.tv

dàn shì wǒ men xiàn zài dà jiā dōu zhī dào

但是我们现在大家都知道 yixi.tv

But now everyone knows YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

shè huì fā zhǎn dāng zhōng

社会发展当中 yixi.tv

In social development YiXi.tv

qí zhōng yǒu yī gè zhòng yào de fā zhǎn jiù shì méi tǐ

其中有一个重要的发展就是媒体 yixi.tv

One of the important developments is the media YiXi.tv

méi tǐ de fā zhǎn ne tā yě guān zhù zhè gè lǐng yù

媒体的发展呢它也关注这个领域 yixi.tv

The development of the media also pays attention to this field YiXi.tv

ér qiě fàn zuì zài zhēn chá guò chéng dāng zhōng

而且犯罪在侦查过程当中 yixi.tv

Moreover, during the investigation of the crime, YiXi.tv

běn shēn jiù shì yǒu diǎn zhì lì de yóu xì de tè diǎn

本身就是有点智力的游戏的特点 yixi.tv

Features of games that are somewhat intellectual in themselves YiXi.tv

yú shì wǒ men de méi tǐ ne zuò zhè yàng de jié mù jiù fēi cháng duō le

于是我们的媒体呢做这样的节目就非常多了 yixi.tv

So our media has a lot of programs like this on YiXi.tv

zhè gè jié mù duō le yǐ hòu ne fàn zuì rén jiù kāi shǐ kàn

这个节目多了以后呢犯罪人就开始看 yixi.tv

After this show became more, criminals started watching YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

fàn zuì rén yī kàn ne jiù míng bái le

犯罪人一看呢就明白了 yixi.tv

The criminal understands YiXi.tv

ó nǐ men shì zhè yàng pò àn de

哦你们是这样破案的 yixi.tv

Oh, you are YiXi.tv who solved the case like this

wǒ céng jīng gēn yī gè fàn zuì rén tán huà

我曾经跟一个犯罪人谈话 yixi.tv

I once talked to a criminal YiXi.tv

wǒ men tán huà de shí hòu hěn jiāng

我们谈话的时候很僵 yixi.tv

We were very stiff when we talked YiXi.tv

jiù shì wǒ wèn tā wèn tí tā bù zhèng miàn huí dá

就是我问他问题他不正面回答 yixi.tv

I asked him questions and he didn’t answer YiXi.tv directly

zuì hòu wǒ jiù gēn tā kāi wán xiào wǒ shuō

最后我就跟他开玩笑我说 yixi.tv

In the end I joked with him, I said YiXi.tv

zhè gè wǒ méi jiàn dào nǐ jiù yǐ jīng fēn xī nǐ le

这个我没见到你就已经分析你了 yixi.tv

I have analyzed you before I saw you. YiXi.tv

zhè gè wǒ méi jiàn dào nǐ jiù yǐ jīng fēn xī nǐ le rán hòu wǒ shuō wǒ gàn shén me de nǐ zhī dào ma

这个我没见到你就已经分析你了然后我说我干什么的你知道吗

I analyzed you before I saw you and I said what I did, you know

tā yáo yáo nǎo dài wǒ shuō nǐ bù kàn diàn shì ma

他摇摇脑袋我说你不看电视吗

He shook his head. I said you don't watch TV.

wǒ shuō wǒ jīng cháng zài diàn shì shàng huǎng yōu

我说我经常在电视上晃悠

I said I often hang around on TV

rán hòu ne tā xiǎng qǐ lái le

然后呢他想起来了

Then he remembered

xiǎng qǐ lái yǐ hòu tā jiù xiǎng dào

想起来以后他就想到

When he remembered it, he thought

méi yǒu xiǎng dào wǒ dàn shì ne tā xiǎng dào wǒ de yī gè tóng shì

没有想到我但是呢他想到我的一个同事

Didn't think of me but he thought of a colleague of mine

tā shuō gēn nǐ zài yī kuài ér yǒu yī gè xìng wáng de jiào shòu

他说跟你在一块儿有一个姓王的教授

He said there is a professor named Wang with you

suǒ yǐ wǒ dāng shí tǐng yù mèn de

所以我当时挺郁闷的

So I was very depressed

zhè gè wáng jiào shòu bǐ wǒ yǒu míng

这个王教授比我有名

Professor Wang is more famous than me

kāi wán xiào

开玩笑

joke

rán hòu ne zhè gè fàn zuì rén dāng shí shuō le zhè me yī jù huà

然后呢这个犯罪人当时说了这么一句话

Then the criminal said something like this

tā shuō qí shí ba wǒ tǐng ài kàn fǎ lǜ jié mù de

他说其实吧我挺爱看法律节目的

He said I actually like watching law shows

tā shuō wǒ zài zhè gè

他说我在这个

He said i'm here

diàn shì dāng zhōng wǒ jīng cháng kàn mǒu mǒu mǒu pín dào

电视当中我经常看某某某频道

I often watch XX channel on TV

tā shuō zhè gè pín dào ne jiù shì jiǎng zhè gè fǎ lǜ de

他说这个频道呢就是讲这个法律的

He said that this channel talks about this law

tā shuō xiàn zài wǒ xiǎng qǐ nǐ lái le

他说现在我想起你来了

He said now I think of you

tā shuō qí shí nǐ yīng gāi gào sù diàn shì tái

他说其实你应该告诉电视台

He said that you should actually tell the TV station

yǒu hěn duō dōng xī bù shì hé zài diàn shì shàng yǎn

有很多东西不适合在电视上演

There are many things that are not suitable to be shown on TV

nà me wǒ hòu lái

那么我后来

Then I later

tīng wán tā zhè huà wǒ yě jué dé tǐng nà shén me de

听完他这话我也觉得挺那什么的

After listening to what he said, I think it's pretty good

wǒ shuō guài bù dé

我说怪不得

I said no wonder

yīn wèi zhè gè fàn zuì rén jiù shì zài xiàn chǎng

因为这个犯罪人就是在现场

Because the criminal is at the scene

gāng cái wǒ jiǎng de wǒ men jì shù shǒu duàn jǐ hū ná bù dào tā

刚才我讲的我们技术手段几乎拿不到他

The technical means I mentioned just now can hardly get him

wèi shén me

为什么

why

zhè gè yīn wèi tā zuò àn dōu shì zài lù miàn shàng

这个因为他作案都是在路面上

This is because he commits crimes on the road

zhè gè lù miàn dōu shì tǔ lù nà me

这个路面都是土路那么

This road is all dirt road

zhè gè jiǎo yìn ba nǐ jiù shì néng tí qǔ

这个脚印吧你就是能提取

You can extract this footprint

nǐ yě bù zhī dào shì bù shì xián yí rén de yīn wèi tā guò lù rén hěn duō

你也不知道是不是嫌疑人的因为它过路人很多

You don’t know if it’s the suspect because it’s a lot of people passing by

rán hòu ne tā yě bù gěi nǐ liú xià tā zuò àn de gōng jù

然后呢他也不给你留下他作案的工具

Then he won’t leave you with the tools he used to commit the crime

suǒ yǐ nǐ ná bù dào tā de zhǐ wén

所以你拿不到他的指纹

So you can't get his fingerprint

wǒ men jiǎng tā zhè gè

我们讲他这个

We talk about him

fàn zuì de xiàn chǎng shì

犯罪的现场是

The scene of the crime is

jiù shì zài lù miàn shàng zhā dāo ma

就是在路面上扎刀嘛

Just stick a knife on the road

jiù shì yè jiān nǚ de huí lái tā zhā yī dāo

就是夜间女的回来他扎一刀

He got a knife when the night girl came back

nà me zhè zhǒng àn jiàn ne méi yǒu jiǎo yìn méi yǒu zhǐ wén

那么这种案件呢没有脚印没有指纹

So this kind of case has no footprints or fingerprints

rán hòu tā yě bù qiǎng bèi hài rén rèn hé wù pǐn

然后他也不抢被害人任何物品

Then he didn't snatch any items from the victim

rú guǒ tā qiǎng wù pǐn wǒ men fǎn yīng kuài yī diǎn

如果他抢物品我们反应快一点

If he grabs the item, we react faster

yīn wèi jiù zhè me xiǎo yī fàn wéi ma

因为就这么小一范围嘛

Because it's so small

āi jiā sōu ba méi zhǔn néng gěi sōu chū lái duì ba

挨家搜吧没准能给搜出来对吧

Search from house to house, maybe you can find it, right?

nà me tā yě bù qiǎng

那么他也不抢

Then he won't grab

rán hòu ne tā suī rán zhā rén ba

然后呢他虽然扎人吧

Then, even though he gets stuck

zhā de dōu shì nǚ xìng

扎的都是女性

All pierced women

kě shì tā yě bù qiáng jiān yě bù wěi xiè

可是他也不强奸也不猥亵

But he does not rape or molest

yǒu shí hòu wǒ men kāi wán xiào shuō

有时候我们开玩笑说

Sometimes we joked

nǐ yào zhēn de zuò diǎn shén me wǒ men hái néng tí diǎn dōng xī

你要真的做点什么我们还能提点东西

If you really do something, we can still mention something

tā shén me yě bù zuò

他什么也不做

He does nothing

tā jiù zhā rén zhā wán tā jiù pǎo

他就扎人扎完他就跑

He pierced people and ran away

suǒ yǐ zhè gè rén ne

所以这个人呢

So this person

nòng dé wǒ men zuì hòu jiù shì

弄得我们最后就是

Made us end up with

yě méi yǒu rén zhèng yīn wèi tā shì yè jiān ma

也没有人证因为他是夜间嘛

There is no evidence because he is at night

jiù shì bèi hài rén wǎng wǎng dōu shì dú zì de

就是被害人往往都是独自的

The victims are often alone

bèi hài rén hòu biān shòu dāo yě kàn bù dào tā

被害人后边受刀也看不到他

The victim received a knife behind him and couldn’t see him

suǒ yǐ xiàng zhè zhǒng qíng kuàng xià jiù shì wǒ men

所以像这种情况下就是我们

So in this case it is us

xiàn dài shè huì dāng zhōng fàn zuì nǐ huì fā xiàn

现代社会当中犯罪你会发现

Crime in modern society, you will find

yǒu hěn duō fàn zuì rén

有很多犯罪人

There are many criminals

tā tōng guò méi tǐ le jiě le nǐ de yī xiē zhēn chá shǒu duàn

他通过媒体了解了你的一些侦查手段

He learned about some of your investigative methods through the media

suǒ yǐ tā zài zuò àn guò chéng dāng zhōng tā jiù yǒu

所以他在作案过程当中他就有

So in the process of committing the crime, he has

míng xiǎn de fǎn zhēn chá de yì shí

明显的反侦查的意识

Obvious anti-investigation awareness

nà me zhè gè shí hòu wǒ men jiù huì yǒu hěn duō yí nán àn jiàn

那么这个时候我们就会有很多疑难案件

Then we will have many difficult cases at this time

zhè gè àn jiàn jiù shì nǐ jǐ hū chá bù dào

这个案件就是你几乎查不到

You can hardly find this case

rèn hé kě yǐ zhǎo dào tā de wù zhèng de xiàn suǒ

任何可以找到它的物证的线索

Any clues to the physical evidence

yú shì jiù xū yào yī gè shén me wèn tí ne

于是就需要一个什么问题呢

So what is the problem?

jiù shì wǒ men zhī dào nǎ pà méi yǒu xiàn chǎng

就是我们知道哪怕没有现场

We know that even if there is no scene

tā dōu huì liú xià zuò àn de fāng shì

他都会留下作案的方式

He will leave the way of committing the crime

hé qīn hài de duì xiàng

和侵害的对象

And the victim

nà me zhè xiē ne

那么这些呢

What about these

zuì kě zuò wèi de jiù shì xīn lǐ fēn xī le

最可作为的就是心理分析了

The best thing to do is psychological analysis

yīn wèi xīn lǐ fēn xī wǒ men zhī dào

因为心理分析我们知道

Because of psychoanalysis we know

tā rén qù kàn yī xiē dōng xī

他人去看一些东西

Others to see something

huò zhě tā qù zuò yī jiàn shì qíng

或者他去做一件事情

Or he does something

yī dìng yǒu xiāng yīng de bèi jǐng

一定有相应的背景

Must have a corresponding background

zhè gè wǒ yǒu yī jù huà jiào zuò

这个我有一句话叫做

I have a sentence called

yǎn lǐ yǒu shén me xīn lǐ yǒu shén me

眼里有什么心里有什么

What's in my eyes What's in my heart

zhè gè yǎn lǐ yǒu shén me xīn lǐ yǒu shén me

这个眼里有什么心里有什么

What's in this eye, what's in my heart

zhè gè huà zěn me jiǎng ne

这个话怎么讲呢

How to say this

bǐ rú shuō wǒ zài zǎo qī gāng gōng zuò de shí hòu

比如说我在早期刚工作的时候

For example, when I first worked in the early days

wǒ céng jīng gēn zhe wǒ men běi jīng de yī gè fēn jú

我曾经跟着我们北京的一个分局

I used to follow our Beijing branch

zài yī gè dà shāng chǎng

在一个大商场

In a big mall

zhè gè wǒ men jiào dǎ bā

这个我们叫「打扒」

We call this "Da Pa"

nà gè shí hòu yě méi nà me duō de jiān kòng

那个时候也没那么多的监控

There was not so much monitoring at that time

jī běn jiù shì gēn zhe shī fù zài shāng chǎng lǐ zhuǎn

基本就是跟着师父在商场里转

Basically follow the master in the mall

wǒ nà shí hòu gāng gōng zuò yě jiù shì liǎng sān nián ba

我那时候刚工作也就是两三年吧

I was just working at that time for two or three years

jī běn yě suàn cài niǎo

基本也算菜鸟

Basically a rookie

rán hòu zài shāng chǎng lǐ ne měi tiān gēn zhe tā zhuǎn ba

然后在商场里呢每天跟着他转吧

Then follow him every day in the mall

yǒu shí hòu shī fù bù lái wǒ zì jǐ zhuǎn

有时候师父不来我自己转

Sometimes the master won’t come and I will do it myself

wǒ zhuǎn le dà gài yǒu yī gè yuè

我转了大概有一个月

I have been around for about a month

wǒ yī gè zéi yě méi zhǎo zhe

我一个贼也没找着

I didn't find a thief

rán hòu ne hòu lái nà tiān tā lái le

然后呢后来那天他来了

Then he came the other day

wǒ shuō nǐ néng bù néng gào sù wǒ

我说你能不能告诉我

I said can you tell me

zhè gè zéi dào dǐ shén me yàng

这个贼到底什么样

What is this thief

tā shuō zéi shū yī yǎn nǐ jiù kàn yǎn shén jiù xíng le

他说贼输一眼你就看眼神就行了

He said that when the thief loses, you just look at the look

kě shì wǒ kàn shuí dōu kàn zhe xiàng

可是我看谁都看着像

But everyone looks like

kàn shuí yě bù xiàng

看谁也不像

Look no one like

wǒ shuō dào dǐ shén me yàng de yǎn shén

我说到底什么样的眼神

What kind of eyes do I have

rán hòu tā jiù dài wǒ chū qù le shuō nǐ gēn wǒ zǒu ba

然后他就带我出去了说你跟我走吧

Then he took me out and said you come with me

wǒ men zài shāng chǎng zhuǎn le bù dào wǔ fēn zhōng

我们在商场转了不到五分钟

We went around in the mall for less than five minutes

tā jiù shuō nǐ zhù yì qián biān yī gè nǚ de chuān bái hàn shān

他就说你注意前边一个女的穿白汗衫

He just said you pay attention to a woman in a white shirt

chuān bái yī fú de bái sè de yī fú

穿白衣服的白色的衣服

White clothes in white clothes

bù shì hàn shān nà shì dōng tiān

不是汗衫那是冬天

It's not an undershirt, it's winter

bái sè de wǒ dāng shí yī yǎn sǎo guò qù

白色的我当时一眼扫过去

I glanced at the white one

hǎo jǐ gè bái sè de jiù bǐ jiào xiǎn yǎn de

好几个白色的就比较显眼的

Several white ones are more conspicuous

rán hòu wǒ jiù bù zhī dào shì nǎ yī gè

然后我就不知道是哪一个

Then I don’t know which one it is

wǒ dīng zhù de shí hòu tā jiù shuō āi nǐ bié jīng zhe tā

我盯住的时候他就说哎你别惊着她

When I stared, he said hey, don't surprise her

nà me wǒ jiù

那么我就

Then i will

yīn wèi wǒ yǎn shén tài zhí bái le

因为我眼神太直白了

Because my eyes are so straightforward

rán hòu tā shuō nǐ bié jīng zhe tā

然后他说你别惊着她

Then he said don’t surprise her

tā bā lā wǒ de tóng shí tā jiù chōng chū qù le

他扒拉我的同时他就冲出去了

He rushed out when he pulled me

rán hòu shuā yī xià jiù bǎ yī gè nǚ de

然后唰一下就把一个女的

And then put a woman

jiù zài wǒ yǎn qián de yī gè nǚ de gěi èn zhù le

就在我眼前的一个女的给摁住了

The woman who was right in front of me was squeezed

zhè nǚ de zhèng hǎo nà shǒu sāi dào yī gè lǎo tài tài dōu lǐ

这女的正好那手塞到一个老太太兜里

This woman happened to put her hand in an old lady's pocket

nà me wǒ xiǎng shuō zhè yì sī shén me ne jiù shì shuō

那么我想说这意思什么呢就是说

So what do I mean by this is to say

zhè gè rén dōu zài wǒ men liǎng gè rén de shì xiàn fàn wéi nèi

这个人都在我们两个人的视线范围内

This person is in sight of both of us

tā sǎo le yī yǎn tā jiù zhǎo dào le

他扫了一眼他就找到了

He glanced at it and found it

wǒ ne

我呢

And me

tā yǐ jīng gào sù wǒ zhè rén chuān shén me yán sè yī fú le

他已经告诉我这人穿什么颜色衣服了

He has told me what color this person is wearing

wǒ hái méi yǒu kàn dào wèi shén me

我还没有看到为什么

I haven't seen why

yīn wèi tā zhuā zéi wú shù

因为他抓贼无数

Because he caught countless thieves

zhuā zéi wú shù shén me gài niàn ne

抓贼无数什么概念呢

What is the concept of catching countless thieves?

jiù shì tā yǎn jīng

就是他眼睛

Just his eyes

pā pā yǐ jīng kàn guò hěn duō de zéi le duì ba

啪啪已经看过很多的贼了对吧

I've seen a lot of thieves, right?

zhè gè tā xīn lǐ tóu jiù yǒu zéi de nà gè xiàng

这个他心里头就有贼的那个像

He has the image of a thief in his heart

ér wǒ ne

而我呢

and I

cóng lái méi yǒu zhuā guò yī gè zéi

从来没有抓过一个贼

Never caught a thief

méi yǒu zhí jiē mù dǔ guò

没有直接目睹过

Not directly witnessed

suǒ yǐ wǒ shuō yǎn lǐ yǒu shén me xīn lǐ yǒu shén me

所以我说眼里有什么心里有什么

So I said what is in my eyes

yě jiù shì shuō

也就是说

In other words

nǐ zài yán jiū rén de zhè gè xīn lǐ huó dòng de shí hòu

你在研究人的这个心理活动的时候

When you are studying the mental activity of people

tā de biǎo xiàn

他的表现

His performance

wǎng wǎng wǒ men zěn me qù fēn xī jiù shì shuō

往往我们怎么去分析就是说

Often how we analyze it means

cóng tā de

从他的

From his

suǒ suǒ dìng de fàn zuì mù biāo

所锁定的犯罪目标

Targeted crime

yǐ jí tā zuò àn de fāng shì

以及他作案的方式

And the way he committed the crime

qí shí yào shuō dào zuò àn de fāng shì ne

其实要说到作案的方式呢

Actually speaking of the way of committing the crime

gēn wǒ gāng cái shuō de yǎn lǐ yǒu shén me xīn lǐ yǒu shén me shì yǒu guān de

跟我刚才说的眼里有什么心里有什么是有关的

Is related to what I said just now

nà dà jiā kě néng dōu jì dé

那大家可能都记得

Then everyone may remember

nián yīn wèi yào jiā xīn de àn jiàn

2011年因为药家鑫的案件

Because of the case of Yaojiaxin in 2011

wǒ bèi zài wǎng shàng yī dùn kǒu shuǐ yān méi

我被在网上一顿口水淹没

I was overwhelmed by saliva on the Internet

dāng rán nà gè shì wǒ jué dé wǒ yě hěn shī bài

当然那个事我觉得我也很失败

Of course, I think I failed too

yīn wèi wǒ zài hěn duǎn de shí jiān nèi

因为我在很短的时间内

Because in a short time

qù shuō le yī gè hěn zhuān yè de huà tí

去说了一个很专业的话题

Went to talk about a very professional topic

ér zhè gè huà tí ne

而这个话题呢

And this topic

wǒ xiǎng zhèng hǎo jiè zhè gè jī huì lái gěi dà jiā zuò yī gè jiě shì

我想正好借这个机会来给大家做一个解释

I want to take this opportunity to give you an explanation

qí shí zhè gè huà ne hěn jiǎn dān

其实这个话呢很简单

Actually this is very simple

wǒ men zài nián dài nián dài ba

我们在80年代70年代吧

Let's be in the 80s and 70s

nián dài chū qī

80年代初期

Early 80s

céng jīng yǒu jǐ gè diàn yǐng jiù shì wén gé zhī hòu

曾经有几个电影就是文革之后

There used to be a few movies after the Cultural Revolution

zuì zǎo yǒu jǐ gè diàn yǐng

最早有几个电影

The earliest movies

sì gè yī gè huǒ hóng de nián dài

四个一个《火红的年代》

Four one "The Red Age"

hái yǒu yī gè jiào qīng sōng lǐng

还有一个叫《青松岭》

There is another called "Green Pine Ridge"

wǒ xiǎng zài zuò kě néng nián qīng rén méi kàn guò

我想在座可能年轻人没看过

I think maybe young people in this room have never seen it

dàn shì suì shù dà de yīng gāi yǒu yìn xiàng

但是岁数大的应该有印象

But those who are older should have an impression

zhè gè qīng sōng lǐng de gù shì jiǎng de shì yī gè shén me ne

这个青松岭的故事讲的是一个什么呢

What is the story of Qingsongling?

jiù shì shān lǐ tóu zhǒng guǒ shù de dì fāng

就是山里头种果树的地方

Where fruit trees are planted in the mountains

tā zhè gè shuǐ guǒ ne yào wǎng shān wài tóu yùn chū qù yào mài

它这个水果呢要往山外头运出去要卖

This fruit has to be shipped out of the mountain for sale

nà me zhè gè cūn ne tā shì

那么这个村呢它是

What about this village?

zhè gè cūn lǐ nà shí hòu jiǎng jiù jiào rén mín gōng shè

这个村里那时候讲就叫人民公社

At that time, this village was called People’s Commune

dōu shì jí tǐ suǒ yǒu zhì

都是集体所有制

Are collectively owned

suǒ yǐ shuǐ guǒ mài le yǐ hòu ne shì píng tān dà jiā de

所以水果卖了以后呢是平摊大家的

So after the fruit is sold, it will be shared among everyone

dàn shì yǒu yī gè shuí mài ne shuí zhàn yōu shì

但是有一个谁卖呢谁占优势

But whoever sells one has the advantage

zhè gè gù shì jiǎng de shén me ne

这个故事讲的什么呢

What does this story tell

zuì kāi shǐ de gù shì jiù shì yī liàng mǎ chē

最开始的故事就是一辆马车

The first story is a carriage

zǒu dào yī gè shān kǒu

走到一个山口

Walk to a mountain pass

tū rán yǒu kē shù de chū xiàn de shí hòu

突然有棵树的出现的时候

When a tree appeared suddenly

zhè mǎ jiù kāi shǐ jīng le

这马就开始惊了

This horse started to be surprised

jīng le yǐ hòu ne jiù fēi cháng wēi xiǎn dì wǎng qián chōng

惊了以后呢就非常危险地往前冲

After being shocked, he dashed forward dangerously

rán hòu zhè gè bǎ shì ne hěn yǒu jīng yàn

然后这个把式呢很有经验

Then this handle is very experienced

zuì hòu bǎ zhè gè mǎ gěi zhì zhù le

最后把这个马给治住了

Finally healed the horse

zhì zhù yǐ hòu jiù fā xiàn

治住以后就发现

I found out after the cure

měi cì zhè gè mǎ zǒu dào zhè ér dōu jīng

每次这个马走到这儿都惊

Every time this horse walks here, I'm surprised

nà me zhè gè jīng ne

那么这个惊呢

So this surprise

dà jiā dōu zhī dào nà shān lù ne tā fēi cháng wēi xiǎn

大家都知道那山路呢它非常危险

Everyone knows that mountain road is very dangerous

dà jiā dōu zhī dào nà shān lù ne tā fēi cháng wēi xiǎn

yixi.tv 大家都知道那山路呢它非常危险

YiXi.tv everyone knows that the mountain road is very dangerous

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

wēi xiǎn shén me yì sī ne

危险什么意思呢 yixi.tv

What does it mean to be dangerous? YiXi.tv

jiù zhè mǎ yī jīng le yǐ hòu rú guǒ nǐ yī dàn shī kòng

就这马一惊了以后如果你一旦失控 yixi.tv

Just this horse is shocked, if you lose control once YiXi.tv

nà jiù rén lián chē dài mǎ dōu huì xià shān de

那就人连车带马都会下山的 yixi.tv

Then YiXi.tv, where people can go down the mountain even with horses and carts

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

gǔn xià qù de

滚下去的 yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

suǒ yǐ zài zhè zhǒng qíng kuàng xià ne

所以在这种情况下呢 yixi.tv

So in this case, YiXi.tv

tā men jiù kāi shǐ diào chá le zhè mǎ wèi shén me huì jīng

他们就开始调查了这马为什么会惊 yixi.tv

They started investigating why this horse was surprised at YiXi.tv

hòu lái yán jiū dào zuì hòu fā xiàn shén me ne

后来研究到最后发现什么呢 yixi.tv

Later, what did the research find at the end? YiXi.tv

jiù zhè gè mǎ měi cì zǒu dào cūn kǒu jiù jīng

就这个马每次走到村口就惊 yixi.tv

It’s just this horse that surprises every time he walks to the entrance of the village YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

nà me tā wèi shén me zǒu dào cūn kǒu jīng ne

那么它为什么走到村口惊呢 yixi.tv

So why did it walk to the entrance of the village and be surprised? YiXi.tv

yīn wèi cūn kǒu yǒu kē wāi bó zi lǎo shù

因为村口有棵歪脖子老树 yixi.tv

Because there is an old tree with a crooked neck at the entrance of the village YiXi.tv

nà wèi shén me zhè wāi bó zi lǎo shù tā yào jīng ne

那为什么这歪脖子老树它要惊呢 yixi.tv

So why is this old tree crooked? YiXi.tv

yīn wèi zhè gè mǎ chē zuì zǎo yī gè nà bǎ shì

因为这个马车最早一个那把式 yixi.tv

Because this carriage is one of the first YiXi.tv

tā zài yùn sòng de shí hòu

他在运送的时候 yixi.tv

When he was transporting YiXi.tv

hòu lái bù ràng tā yùn le ràng bié rén yùn le

后来不让他运了让别人运了 yixi.tv

Later, he was not allowed to be shipped and others were shipped on YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

tā jiù shì wèi le lǒng duàn zhè gè mǎ chē

他就是为了垄断这个马车 yixi.tv

He is to monopolize this carriage YiXi.tv

tā gěi mǎ zuò le yī gè xùn liàn

他给马做了一个训练 yixi.tv

He did a training for the horse YiXi.tv

yě jiù shì měi cì zǒu dào zhè yī gè dì fāng

也就是每次走到这一个地方 yixi.tv

That is, every time I go to this place YiXi.tv

zhǐ yào jiàn dào zhè kē shù

只要见到这棵树 yixi.tv

Just see this tree YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

jiù hěn chōu zhè mǎ de hòu ěr gēn zi

就狠抽这马的后耳根子 yixi.tv

Just slam the back of this horse on YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

chōu dé zhè mǎ hòu ěr gēn zi hěn téng

抽得这马后耳根子很疼 yixi.tv

The ears of this horse hurt so much YiXi.tv

zhè mǎ huì zěn me yàng ne jiù huì wǎng qián zhēng

这马会怎么样呢就会往前挣 yixi.tv

What will happen to this horse, I will earn YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

suǒ yǐ dāng tā měi cì zhè yàng zuò yǐ hòu jiǔ ér jiǔ zhī

所以当他每次这样做以后久而久之 yixi.tv

So every time he did this, YiXi.tv

nà mǎ zhǐ yào jiàn dào zhè kē shù jiù zhī dào gāi āi chōu le

那马只要见到这棵树就知道该挨抽了 yixi.tv

As long as he sees this tree, he knows he should be smoked. YiXi.tv

suǒ yǐ tā gǎn kuài wǎng qián pǎo duì ba

所以它赶快往前跑对吧 yixi.tv

So it runs forward quickly, right YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

nà me hòu biān de rén shì kàn bù dào zhè yī biān zi

那么后边的人是看不到这一鞭子 yixi.tv

Then the people behind can't see this whip YiXi.tv

dàn shì ne zhè gè mǎ dào zhè ér réng rán huì jīng

但是呢这个马到这儿仍然会惊 yixi.tv

But this horse will still be surprised when it comes to YiXi.tv

suǒ yǐ jiù shì shuō zhè gè mǎ tā jīng ne

所以就是说这个马它惊呢 yixi.tv

So it’s so shocking YiXi.tv

bù shì méi yǒu yuán yīn de

不是没有原因的 yixi.tv

Not YiXi.tv without a reason

zhè gè yuán yīn zài nǎ ér ne bù zài yǎn qián

这个原因在哪儿呢不在眼前 yixi.tv

Where is the reason? Not in front of YiXi.tv

ér zài yú guò qù de jīng lì

而在于过去的经历 yixi.tv

It lies in the past experience YiXi.tv

suǒ yǐ wǒ yòng zhè gè gù shì ne lái gěi dà jiā zài jiǎng yī xià

所以我用这个故事呢来给大家再讲一下 yixi.tv

So I use this story to tell everyone about YiXi.tv

yào jiā xīn nà gè àn jiàn

药家鑫那个案件 yixi.tv

The case of Yao Jiaxin YiXi.tv

yīn wèi wǒ men zài yán jiū àn jiàn dāng zhōng

因为我们在研究案件当中 yixi.tv

Because we are studying the case on YiXi.tv

jīng cháng huì yán jiū

经常会研究 yixi.tv

I often study YiXi.tv

chú le gāng cái wǒ shuō de yán jiū tā de

除了刚才我说的研究他的 yixi.tv

In addition to the YiXi.tv that I said just now

xún zhǎo de zhè gè mù biāo shì shén me yàng de rén

寻找的这个目标是什么样的人 yixi.tv

What kind of person is this target looking for YiXi.tv

hái yǒu yī gè ne jiù yán jiū tā zěn me zuò àn

还有一个呢就研究他怎么作案 yixi.tv

There is another one, just study how he committed the crime YiXi.tv

zhè gè zuò àn ne wǒ men zhī dào yǒu hěn duō

这个作案呢我们知道有很多 yixi.tv

This crime we know there are many YiXi.tv

yixi.tv

YiXi.tv

bāo kuò suì shī de fāng shì

包括碎尸的方式 yixi.tv

Including the way of broken corpses YiXi.tv

yě bāo kuò tā de zhè gè xiàn chǎng zuò de yī xiē shì qíng

也包括他的这个现场做的一些事情 yixi.tv

It also includes some of his work on YiXi.tv

nà me zhè gè zuò shì ne wǎng wǎng wǒ men

那么这个做事呢往往我们 yixi.tv

Well, we often do things on YiXi.tv

wǒ gāng cái jiǎng le nǐ yào rú guǒ méi yǒu wù zhèng de qíng kuàng

我刚才讲了你要如果没有物证的情况 yixi.tv

I just talked about what you want if there is no physical evidence on YiXi.tv

nǐ zhǐ yǒu fēn xī tā zuò àn de fāng shì

你只有分析他作案的方式 yixi.tv

You only have to analyze the way he committed the crime YiXi.tv

nà me zhè gè fāng shì ne

那么这个方式呢 yixi.tv

How about this method YiXi.tv

bǐ rú shuō wǒ men de fǎ yī yě huì yǒu zhè yàng de fēn xī

比如说我们的法医也会有这样的分析 yixi.tv

For example, our forensic doctor will also have such an analysis YiXi.tv

tā suì shī de yòng dāo de fāng fǎ

他碎尸的用刀的方法 yixi.tv

His method of smashing the body with a knife YiXi.tv

tā suì shī de yòng dāo de fāng fǎ

他碎尸的用刀的方法

His method of using a knife

bǐ rú céng jīng yī gè nǚ xìng bèi hài

比如曾经一个女性被害

For example, once a woman was killed

tā de rǔ fáng bèi gē

她的乳房被割

Her breast was cut

nà me zhè gè fǎ yī jiù gào sù wǒ shuō tā zhè gè bèi gē ne

那么这个法医就告诉我说她这个（被）割呢

Then the forensic doctor told me that she was (by) cut

yīn wèi dà jiā zhī dào rǔ fáng shì yī gè yuán quān

因为大家知道乳房是一个圆圈

Because everyone knows that the breast is a circle

tā yào shì ér qiě hěn róu ruǎn

它要是而且很柔软

If it is and very soft

nǐ zài gē de shí hòu méi yǒu jīng yàn de huà

你在割的时候没有经验的话

If you have no experience when you cut

huì gē dào yī bàn jiù gē piān le

会割到一半就割偏了

Will cut halfway

yú shì tā huì tíng xià yī dāo

于是他会停下一刀

So he will stop

zài jiē zhe wǎng xià zǒu dì èr dāo

再接着往下走第二刀

Then go down for the second time

nà me yī bān wǒ men jiù huì fā xiàn jiào tíng dùn dāo

那么一般我们就会发现叫停顿刀

Then generally we will find that it is called a pause knife

ér tā zhè gè ne

而他这个呢

And what about him

liǎng gè rǔ fáng gē de shí hòu dōu shì méi yǒu tíng dùn dāo

两个乳房割的时候都是没有停顿刀

There is no pause when cutting both breasts

méi yǒu tíng dùn dāo zhè lǐ tóu jiù shè jí dào yī gè wèn tí le

没有停顿刀这里头就涉及到一个问题了

Without stopping the knife, there is a problem involved here.

jiù shì zhè gè rén tā yǒu shén me yàng de xùn liàn néng zuò dào zhè yī diǎn

就是这个人他有什么样的训练能做到这一点

What kind of training does this person have to do this

yīn wèi tā bù kě néng tiān tiān qù gē rǔ fáng duì ba

因为他不可能天天去割乳房对吧

Because he can't cut his breasts every day, right

suǒ yǐ nà me zhè gè rén ne

所以那么这个人呢

So what about this person

zuì hòu wǒ men zhuā zhe tā zhī dào tā

最后我们抓着他知道他

Finally we caught him and knew him

yīn wèi dāng shí wǒ men yě fēn xī

因为当时我们也分析

Because we also analyzed

dà jiā zhī dào yǒu sān zhǒng qíng kuàng huì yòng dāo

大家知道有三种情况会用刀

Everyone knows that there are three situations where a knife is used

yī gè ne jiù shì dà fū

一个呢就是大夫

One is the doctor

jiù shì wài kē dà fū

就是外科大夫

Is the surgeon

dì èr zhǒng ne jiù shì bǐ rú shuō chú shī

第二种呢就是比如说厨师

The second one is like the chef

hái yǒu dì sān zhǒng qíng kuàng jiù shì tú fū

还有第三种情况就是屠夫

There is a third case, butcher

nà me zhè sān zhǒng qíng kuàng wǒ men zhī dào

那么这三种情况我们知道

Then we know these three situations

dà fū ne tā yī bān chú fēi zhí pí

大夫呢他一般除非植皮

For the doctor, he usually doesn’t use skin grafting

duō shù dà fū dōu shì zhè yàng yòng dāo de

多数大夫都是这样用刀的

Most doctors use knives like this

jiù zhí pí de cái huì yǒu piàn

就植皮的才会有片

Only the skin graft will have the film

nà me zuì duō de piàn ne jiù shì chú shī

那么最多的片呢就是厨师

So the most film is the chef

suǒ yǐ zhè gè rén wǒ men dāng shí jiù fēn xī gàn guò chú shī duì ba

所以这个人我们当时就分析干过厨师对吧

So we analyzed this person as a cook, right?

nà me yě jiù shì shuō

那么也就是说

Then that means

zhè gè fēn xī dà jiā jiù hěn róng yì lǐ jiě le

这个分析大家就很容易理解了

This analysis is easy for everyone to understand

xiàn zài wǒ zài huí dào yào jiā xīn de àn jiàn shàng

现在我再回到药家鑫的案件上

Now I return to the case of Yao Jiaxin

yīn wèi yào jiā xīn zhè gè àn jiàn ne

因为药家鑫这个案件呢

Because of the case of Yao Jiaxin

dāng shí yě shì yǒu diǎn jiù shì hěn nà shén me

当时也是有点就是很那什么

At that time, it was a little bit so what

zhè gè qū zhé de yī xiē dōng xī zài lǐ miàn

这个曲折的一些东西在里面

Some twists and turns are inside

tā de wèn tí ne shí jì shàng

他的问题呢实际上

His question is actually

shǒu xiān wǒ jiǎng tā de xīn lǐ wèn tí gēn zhè dāo fǎ shì

首先我讲他的心理问题跟这刀法是

First of all, let me talk about his psychological problems

zhā bā dāo shì méi yǒu guān xì de

扎八刀是没有关系的

It's okay to take eight knives

tā zuò àn de xīn lǐ wǒ qí shí yī kāi shǐ yǐ jīng fēn xī

他作案的心理我其实一开始已经分析

I actually analyzed the psychology of his crime

tā de yuán yīn shì guān niàn

他的原因是观念

His reason is notion

nà me tā de dòng jī ne tā yǐ jīng jiǎng le

那么他的动机呢他已经讲了

So what is his motivation? He has already talked about it

jiù shì nóng cūn rén nán chán

就是农村人难缠

It is difficult for rural people

suǒ yǐ wǒ jiǎng hái bù rú bǎ tā le le

所以我讲还不如把她了了

So I said it's better to take her

nà me guān jiàn shì tā de dāo fǎ

那么关键是他的刀法

Then the key is his knife

nà me wǒ xiǎng zhè gè hái zi tā shì dì yī cì zuò àn

那么我想这个孩子他是第一次作案

Then I think this kid is the first time he committed a crime

yòu shì yī gè yì shù de dà xué shēng xué yì shù de

又是一个艺术的大学生学艺术的

Another art college student studying art

nà me tā yīng gāi shì shǔ yú

那么他应该是属于

Then he should belong to

méi yǒu nà me cán rěn

没有那么残忍

Not so cruel

méi yǒu nà me cán rěn de huà

没有那么残忍的话

Not so cruel

tā zhè gè xiàn chǎng ne wǒ men lái kàn

他这个现场呢我们来看

Let's take a look at his scene

tā dāo shì bǐ jiào duō de

他刀是比较多的

He has more knives

zhè gè dāo duō tā yǒu yī gè wèn tí

这个刀多它有一个问题

There is a problem with this knife

jiù shì wǒ men yī bān dāo duō ne

就是我们一般刀多呢

We usually have more knives

jiù huì fēn xī tā de zhè gè dòng zuò de xīn lǐ le

就会分析他的这个动作的心理了

Will analyze the psychology of his action

nà me zhè zhǒng xīn lǐ yī bān yǒu jǐ zhǒng qíng kuàng ne

那么这种心理一般有几种情况呢

So there are generally several situations for this kind of psychology

wǒ rèn wèi qí zhōng zuì yǒu zhǒng kě néng de huà

我认为其中最有种可能的话

I think one of the most possible words

jiù shì dì yī zhǒng kě néng jiù shì wǒ hèn sǐ nǐ le

就是第一种可能就是我恨死你了

The first possibility is that I hate you to death

wǒ men zhī dào rén zài chóu hèn dāng zhōng

我们知道人在仇恨当中

We know that people are in hatred

tā nà gè xíng wèi shì duō yú de

他那个行为是多余的

His behavior is superfluous

jiù shì yīn wèi tā yǐ jīng bù zhī dào duō shǎo dāo le

就是因为他已经不知道多少刀了

Just because he doesn't know how many knives

fǎn zhèng tā nà gè qíng xù méi wán tā jiù huì zuò zhè gè shì qíng

反正他那个情绪没完他就会做这个事情

Anyway, he will do this when his emotions are not over

nà me hái yǒu dì èr zhǒng qíng kuàng jiù shì

那么还有第二种情况就是

Then there is a second situation

zhè gè wēi xiǎn bù wán

这个危险不完

This danger is endless

wēi xiǎn bù wán shì shén me yì sī

危险不完是什么意思

What does it mean to be dangerous

bǐ rú fàn zuì rén zuò àn ba nǐ bào zhù tā dà tuǐ le

比如犯罪人作案吧你抱住他大腿了

For example, if the criminal commits a crime, you hug his thigh

rán hòu zhè fàn zuì rén xiǎng pǎo pǎo bù diào

然后这犯罪人想跑跑不掉

Then the criminal wanted to run away

yú shì tā jiù zhā nǐ

于是他就扎你

So he pierced you

rán hòu nǐ sǐ bào zhe bù sā shǒu duì ba

然后你死抱着不撒手对吧

Then you hold on and don't let go, right

rán hòu tā zài jì xù zhā nǐ

然后他再继续扎你

And then he continues to prick you

suǒ yǐ wǒ men yī bān yán jiū rén de zhè zhǒng dòng zuò ne

所以我们一般研究人的这种动作呢

So we generally study people’s movements

tā huì yǒu yī xiē yuán yīn zào jiù de

它会有一些原因造就的

It has some reasons

ér tā ne wǒ men zhī dào zhè gè xiàn chǎng

而他呢我们知道这个现场

And he, we know this scene

tā dì yī méi yǒu zhè gè

它第一没有这个

It doesn't have this first

nǚ xìng jiù zhè gè bèi hài de nǚ hái

女性就这个被害的女孩

The female is the murdered girl

tā méi yǒu mà tā

她没有骂他

She didn't scold him

yě méi yǒu shuō shén me huà

也没有说什么话

Didn't say anything

yīn wèi zhè nǚ hái dāng shí zhuàng dào yǐ hòu hěn téng

因为这女孩当时撞倒以后很疼

Because the girl hurts after she knocked down

nà me wǒ men zhī dào zhèng miàn gǔ zhuàng huài de huà

那么我们知道正面骨撞坏的话

Then we know that if the frontal bone is damaged

zhèng miàn gǔ shì fēi cháng téng de

正面骨是非常疼的

The front bone is very painful

suǒ yǐ cóng nà xiàn chǎng lái kàn

所以从那现场来看

So from the scene

zhè nǚ hái méi yǒu shén me cì jī de yán yǔ duì tā

这女孩没有什么刺激的言语对他

The girl didn't have any stimulating words to him

dì èr ne jiù shì tā hēi àn dāng zhōng zǒu xià qù kàn

第二呢就是他黑暗当中走下去看

The second is that he walked down in the dark to see

tā běn shēn yě hěn jǐn zhāng

他本身也很紧张

He is also very nervous

dì yī cì bǎ rén zhuàng le yòu xiǎng bǎ rén gàn diào

第一次把人撞了又想把人干掉

I hit someone for the first time and wanted to kill someone

tā yě hěn jǐn zhāng

他也很紧张

He is also very nervous

suǒ yǐ wǒ men xiǎng yī bān wǒ men yào shā rén de huà

所以我们想一般我们要杀人的话

So we think if we want to kill people

bì zhe yǎn jīng chā chā chā

闭着眼睛插插插

Plug in with your eyes closed

dì yī cì nǐ tǒng sān sì dāo jiù yǐ jīng hěn duō dāo le

第一次你捅三四刀就已经很多刀了

The first time you stabbed three or four knives, there were already many knives

nǐ de gǎn jué jiù yǐ jīng hěn duō xià le

你的感觉就已经很多下了

You feel a lot

kě shì tā jū rán lián xù bā dāo

可是他居然连续八刀

But he actually made eight consecutive shots

suǒ yǐ wǒ rèn wèi tā zhè zhǒng dòng zuò de lì suǒ shì zài yú nǎ

所以我认为他这种动作的利索是在于哪

So I think what is the neatness of his action

tā de qíng xù lái yuán yú nǎ zhè shì wǒ dāng shí bù míng bái de

他的情绪来源于哪这是我当时不明白的

Where did his emotions come from? I didn’t understand at the time

suǒ yǐ wǒ zài zhè gè lǐ tóu

所以我在这个里头

So i'm in this

zài tā fǎng tán de zhè gè guò chéng dāng zhōng

在他访谈的这个过程当中

In the process of his interview

wǒ yǒu yī gè wèn tí

我有一个问题

I have a question

jiù shì nǐ zhā tā sān sì dāo zhè rén jiù huì cǎn jiào

就是你扎她三四刀这人就会惨叫

If you stabbed her three or four times, this person will scream

tā wèi shén me

他为什么

Why he

jiù shì nǐ wèi shén me méi yǒu bù rěn

就是你为什么没有不忍

That's why you didn't have to bear

wèi shén me méi yǒu tíng xià shǒu

为什么没有停下手

Why didn't you stop

nà me wǒ méi xiǎng dào zài yǎn bō shì dāng shí

那么我没想到在演播室当时

Then I didn’t expect to be in the studio

zhǔ chí rén jiù bǎ zhè gè wèn tí cóng wǒ wèn juǎn lǐ tiāo chū lái le

主持人就把这个问题从我问卷里挑出来了

The host picked this question out of my questionnaire

suǒ yǐ wǒ jué dé wǒ zài xiàn chǎng huí dá le yī gè

所以我觉得我在现场回答了一个

So I think I answered one on the spot

wǒ zì jǐ tí chū de wèn tí

我自己提出的问题

My own question

shì wǒ zhè zhuān yè de rén zì jǐ tí gěi zì jǐ de yī gè wèn tí

是我这专业的人自己提给自己的一个问题

It’s a question asked by myself as a professional

suǒ yǐ wǒ jiù zhào zhe wǒ zhuān yè jiǎo dù qù huí dá le

所以我就照着我专业角度去回答了

So I answered according to my professional perspective

wǒ xiàn chǎng yī kàn tā zài kū sù

我现场一看他在哭诉

I saw him crying at the scene

tā shuō yīn wèi wǒ bèi fù qīn guān zài dì xià shì liàn qín

他说因为我被父亲关在地下室练琴

He said that because I was locked up in the basement by my father to practice piano

rán hòu tā men zěn me zěn me yàng

然后他们怎么怎么样

Then how do they do

rán hòu bù liàn hǎo bù ràng wǒ chī fàn

然后不练好不让我吃饭

Then don’t let me eat if I don’t practice

shén zhì wǒ hǎo jǐ cì xiǎng dào zì shā

甚至我好几次想到自杀

I even thought of suicide several times

wǒ hěn tòng kǔ wǒ hěn zěn me zěn me yàng

我很痛苦我很怎么怎么样

I am in pain

wǒ yī tīng dào zhè gè huà wǒ jiù míng bái le

我一听到这个话我就明白了

As soon as I heard this, I understood

tā zhè gè dòng zuò hé zhè gè qíng xù shì yǒu guān de

他这个动作和这个情绪是有关的

His action is related to this emotion

suǒ yǐ tā zài zhè ér shā rén de dòng zuò

所以他在这儿杀人的动作

So his murderous action here

zhè hé tā nà gè de qíng xù dòng zuò yǒu guān

这和他那个的情绪动作有关

This is related to his emotional actions

nà me wǒ xiàn zài zhè yàng fēn xī dà jiā jiù míng bái le

那么我现在这样分析大家就明白了

Then I analyze it this way and everyone will understand

wǒ men zài yán jiū fàn zuì xíng wèi fēn xī dāng zhōng

我们在研究犯罪行为分析当中

We are studying criminal behavior analysis

yòng de yī xiē fāng fǎ

用的一些方法

Some methods used

dāng rán zhè gè huà yǔ ne

当然这个话语呢

Of course this word

dà jiā kě néng zài nà gè bèi jǐng xià jué dé bù néng lǐ jiě

大家可能在那个背景下觉得不能理解

You may not understand it in that context

shuō nǐ bǎ shā rén dāng dàn qín

说你把杀人当弹琴

Say you use murder as a piano

qí shí wǒ zhēn de méi yǒu sī háo de zhè yàng de hán yì

其实我真的没有丝毫的这样的含义

Actually, I really don’t have the slightest meaning

dàn shì ne tā shì shí shàng zhè gè xíng wèi

但是呢他事实上这个行为

But in fact, this behavior

hé tā de dàn qín dòng zuò shì yǒu guān de

和他的弹琴动作是有关的

Is related to his piano playing

nà me wǒ men zài yán jiū fàn zuì xíng wèi fēn xī

那么我们在研究犯罪行为分析

Then we are studying criminal behavior analysis

hé xīn lǐ fēn xī dāng zhōng zhè jiù shè jí dào yī gè shén me ne

和心理分析当中这就涉及到一个什么呢

And what is involved in psychoanalysis?

jiù shì nǐ zài bù jiàn rén de qíng kuàng xià

就是你在不见人的情况下

Is when you don’t see anyone

tōng guò xíng wèi fāng shì

通过行为方式

By way of behavior

tōng guò tā de qīn hài mù biāo

通过他的侵害目标

Through his target

qù yán jiū zhè gè rén kě néng tā yǒu guò de xiāng shì de jīng lì

去研究这个人可能他有过的相似的经历

To study the similar experience that this person might have

shòu guò de jiào yù

受过的教育

Education

yǐ jí tā zuì shàn zhǎng de yī xiē biǎo xiàn

以及他最擅长的一些表现

And some of his best performances

suǒ yǐ zhè xiē fēn xī ne

所以这些分析呢

So these analyses

yě jiù shì fàn zuì xīn lǐ huà xiàng jiào shén me ne

也就是犯罪心理画像叫什么呢

What is the name of the criminal psychology portrait?

jiù shì duì yī gè bù zhī míng de méi yǒu jiàn guò de xián yí rén

就是对一个不知名的没有见过的嫌疑人

To an unknown suspect

tōng guò tā de xíng wèi fāng shì

通过他的行为方式

Through his behavior

yǐ jí qí tā de yī xiē xīn lǐ nèi róng

以及其他的一些心理内容

And some other psychological content

rán hòu ne zuò yī gè miáo shù

然后呢做一个描述

Then make a description

zhè gè miáo shù shén me yì sī ne

这个描述什么意思呢

What does this description mean?

jiù shì nǐ dà zhì néng miáo shù zhè gè rén shì yī gè

就是你大致能描述这个人是一个

Is that you can roughly describe this person as a

shén me yàng de rén

什么样的人

what kind of person

bǐ rú bāo kuò tā de shēn gāo tā de tǐ xíng

比如包括他的身高他的体型

Such as his height and his body type

rán hòu tā suǒ shēng huó de jīng lì

然后他所生活的经历

And then his life experience

tā de jiā tíng bèi jǐng yǐ jí tā shòu guò de jiào yù

他的家庭背景以及他受过的教育

His family background and his education

tā cóng shì guò de zhí yè

他从事过的职业

His career

nà me wǒ men zhī dào

那么我们知道

Then we know

wǒ men bǎ zhè gè rén de tè zhēng miáo shù dé yuè duō

我们把这个人的特征描述得越多

The more we describe the characteristics of this person

zhè gè rén jiù yuè róng yì

这个人就越容易

The easier this person

ràng wǒ men xíng chéng yī gè xīn zhōng de yī gè xiàng

让我们形成一个心中的一个像

Let us form an image in our heart

zhè gè xiàng zhì shǎo ràng wǒ men zhī dào

这个像至少让我们知道

This image at least let us know

dào shén me dì fāng qù zhǎo zhè gè rén

到什么地方去找这个人

Where to find this person

nà me wǒ yǒu shí hòu yě zài yán jiū yī gè wèn tí

那么我有时候也在研究一个问题

Then I am also studying a problem sometimes

jiù shì shuō wǒ men zài yán jiū xiàn chǎng wèn tí shàng

就是说我们在研究现场问题上

In other words, we are studying on-site issues

wǒ kěn dìng bù rú zhuān mén gǎo zhēn chá de

我肯定不如专门搞侦查的

I'm definitely not as good as investigating

nà me yán jiū xíng wèi fāng shì wǒ yě bù rú zhuān mén gǎo zhēn chá de

那么研究行为方式我也不如专门搞侦查的

Then I’m not as good as investigating behavior

bāo kuò wǒ men fǎ yī

包括我们法医

Including our forensic

tā men yán jiū xíng wèi dōu bǐ wǒ men yào gèng zhuān yè

他们研究行为都比我们要更专业

Their research behavior is more professional than us

yīn wèi tā men jiàn dé duō jīng yàn běn shēn yě shì fēi cháng zhòng yào de

因为他们见得多经验本身也是非常重要的

Because they see a lot of experience itself is also very important

nà me wǒ suǒ néng yán jiū de yōu shì shì shén me

那么我所能研究的优势是什么

So what are the advantages that I can study

shí jì shàng shì xīn lǐ xué

实际上是心理学

Actually psychology

nà me wǒ zài zhè lǐ tóu jiǎng de gāng cái zhè xiē dōng xī

那么我在这里头讲的刚才这些东西

So what I said just now

hái méi yǒu shè jí dào zhēn zhèng de fàn zuì xīn lǐ de yán jiū

还没有涉及到真正的犯罪心理的研究

There is no real criminal psychology research

nà fàn zuì xīn lǐ yán jiū shí jì shàng shì shén me ne

那犯罪心理研究实际上是什么呢

So what is criminal psychology research actually?

shì duì yú rén de yán jiū

是对于人的研究

Is the study of people

zhè gè rén de yán jiū ne wǎng wǎng bù shì cóng

这个人的研究呢往往不是从

This person’s research is often not from

jiǎn dān de yī gè xiàn chǎng lái yán jiū le

简单的一个现场来研究了

A simple site to study

yǒu de shí hòu nǐ duì yī gè àn jiàn de yán jiū

有的时候你对一个案件的研究

Sometimes your research on a case

kě néng huì shè jí dào nǐ shēng huó dāng zhōng

可能会涉及到你生活当中

May be involved in your life

nǐ de duì rén de le jiě de duō shǎo

你的对人的了解的多少

How much do you know about people

suǒ yǐ yǒu shí hòu nǐ yě huì fā xiàn yǒu jīng yàn de zhēn chá rén yuán

所以有时候你也会发现有经验的侦查人员

So sometimes you will find experienced investigators

tā yóu qí zhǎng qī cóng shì zhè gè àn jiàn

他尤其长期从事这个案件

He has been engaged in this case especially for a long time

tā yǒu shí hòu yī gè xiàn chǎng tā jiù huì fǎn yīng chū lái

他有时候一个现场他就会反应出来

He sometimes reacts to the scene

zhè gè zuò àn rén yīng gāi shì yī gè shén me yàng de rén

这个作案人应该是一个什么样的人

What kind of person should this perpetrator be

nà me xīn lǐ xué de zhè gè yán jiū ne ràng wǒ

那么心理学的这个研究呢让我

So this study of psychology makes me

jiù shì fàn zuì xīn lǐ huà xiàng shí jì shàng

就是犯罪心理画像实际上

Is the criminal mental portrait actually

jiù shì duì fàn zuì rén de yán jiū

就是对犯罪人的研究

Is the study of criminals

ér zhè gè yán jiū màn màn shí jiān jiǔ le nǐ huì fā xiàn

而这个研究慢慢时间久了你会发现

And this research will take a long time and you will find

rén tā shì yǒu guī lǜ de

人他是有规律的

He is regular

yóu qí zhè zhǒng xīn lǐ fā zhǎn de guī lǜ

尤其这种心理发展的规律

Especially this law of psychological development

nà me zhè gè xīn lǐ fā zhǎn de guī lǜ

那么这个心理发展的规律

Then this law of psychological development

zhè yě shì wǒ zài hòu lái zhè shí nián

这也是我在后来这十年

This is what I did in the next ten years

wǒ yī gòng sān shí nián ma

我一共三十年嘛

I have a total of thirty years

wǒ tóu shí nián shì shǔ yú gāng gāng jiē chù

我头十年是属于刚刚接触

I was just in contact for the first ten years

rán hòu dì èr gè shí nián cóng wǒ xià pài zhī hòu duàn liàn zhī hòu

然后第二个十年从我下派之后锻炼之后

And then after the second ten years of training after I was sent

wǒ men duì zhè gè lǐng yù de wǒ kāi shǐ de guān zhù

我们对这个领域的我开始的关注

Our attention to me in this field

rán hòu dì sān gè jiǎo dù ne

然后第三个角度呢

And the third angle

jiù shì dì sān gè lǐng yù dì sān gè shí nián

就是第三个领域第三个十年

Is the third field and the third decade

wǒ gèng duō de yán jiū de jiù shì rén de wèn tí le

我更多的研究的就是人的问题了

I'm more researching on human issues

nà me yóu qí shì wǒ fā xiàn jiù shì shuō

那么尤其是我发现就是说

So especially when I found out

zài wú lùn shén me yàng de yī gè fàn zuì xiàn chǎng

在无论什么样的一个犯罪现场

At any crime scene

dāng nǐ miàn duì de zhè gè fàn zuì rén

当你面对的这个犯罪人

When you face this criminal

huò zhě jiào fàn zuì xián yí rén de shí hòu

或者叫犯罪嫌疑人的时候

Or when called a suspect

dōu kě yǐ zhè me jiǎng

都可以这么讲

You can say that

jiù shì tā hùn zài rén qún dāng zhōng

就是他混在人群当中

He is in the crowd

nǐ gēn běn bù kě néng

你根本不可能

You can't

jiù shì wǒ men yī bān rén shuō tā kěn dìng jiù shì gè fàn zuì rén

就是我们一般人说他肯定就是个犯罪人

It means that most of us say that he must be a criminal

wǒ men bù huì shuō zhè yàng de huà

我们不会说这样的话

We won't say such things

yīn wèi shén me

因为什么

Because of what

yīn wèi nǐ huì fā xiàn tā yě yǒu qíng gǎn

因为你会发现他也有情感

Because you will find that he also has emotions

tā yǒu xǐ huān de yīn lè tā yǒu xǐ huān kàn de diàn yǐng

他有喜欢的音乐他有喜欢看的电影

He has music he likes and movies he likes to watch

shén zhì tā kě néng xǐ huān de diàn yǐng gēn nǐ shì yī yàng de

甚至他可能喜欢的电影跟你是一样的

He might even like the same movie as you

tā xǐ huān de yīn lè gēn nǐ shì yī yàng de

他喜欢的音乐跟你是一样的

He likes the same music as you

nà me zhè shí hòu nǐ jiù yǒu yī gè kùn huò le

那么这时候你就有一个困惑了

Then you have a confusion at this time

yě jiù shì shuō

也就是说

In other words

nǐ wán quán jù yǒu rén de yī xiē zhuàng tài

你完全具有人的一些状态

You have some human status

nǐ wèi shén me yào zuò nà me kě pà de

你为什么要做那么可怕的

Why are you so terrible

yī bān rén bù gǎn zuò de shì qíng

一般人不敢做的事情

What most people don't dare to do

suǒ yǐ zhè jiù shè jí dào yī gè dòng jī de wèn tí yán jiū

所以这就涉及到一个动机的问题研究

So this involves a study of motivation

wǒ yǒu shí hòu zài xiǎng jiù shì

我有时候在想就是

I sometimes think

wǒ men gāng gāng kāi shǐ kàn dào fàn zuì xīn lǐ xiàn xiàng

我们刚刚开始看到犯罪心理现象

We are just beginning to see the phenomenon of criminal psychology

jiù xiāng dāng yú yī fú huà miàn

就相当于一幅画面

Is equivalent to a picture

dàn shì suí zhe nǐ yán jiū shí jiān zhǎng le yǐ hòu

但是随着你研究时间长了以后

But as you study for a long time

nǐ huì jìn yī gè dòng

你会进一个洞

You will go into a hole

zhè gè dòng shì shén me

这个洞是什么

What is this hole

jiù shì rén de yī gè zòng xiàng de fā zhǎn

就是人的一个纵向的发展

Is a vertical development of man

yě jiù shì shuō měi yī gè rén tā jīn tiān biàn chéng zhè yàng

也就是说每一个人他今天变成这样

In other words, everyone has become like this today

yī dìng yǒu yī gè xiāng yīng de guò qù

一定有一个相应的过去

There must be a corresponding past

suǒ yǐ zài zhè gè jiǎo dù dāng zhōng ne

所以在这个角度当中呢

So in this angle

wǒ men kāi shǐ qù yán jiū tā de zǎo nián

我们开始去研究他的早年

We started to study his early years

wǒ men kāi shǐ qù yán jiū tā de zǎo nián

yixi.tv 我们开始去研究他的早年

YiXi.tv we started to study his early years

zhè gè zǎo nián ne

这个早年呢 yixi.tv

In this early years, YiXi.tv

zhè gè zǎo nián ne wǒ zuì hòu dé chū yī gè jié lùn jiù shì

这个早年呢我最后得出一个结论就是

In this early years, I finally came to a conclusion

rén shí jì shàng dōu shì yī zhǒng chǎn pǐn

人实际上都是一种产品

People are actually a product

zhè gè chǎn pǐn shì shén me chǎn pǐn ne

这个产品是什么产品呢

What product is this product

wǒ men kě yǐ shuō shì jiào yù de chǎn pǐn

我们可以说是教育的产品

We can say it is the product of education

dàn shì wǒ rèn wèi jiào yù ne

但是我认为教育呢

But I think education

tā yī bān wǒ men lǐ jiě de jiào yù gèng duō de dōu shì xué xiào jiào yù

它一般我们理解的教育更多的都是学校教育

It is generally understood that education is more school education

dàn shì zài wǒ lái kàn gèng zhòng yào de shì jiā tíng

但是在我来看更重要的是家庭

But in my opinion, family is more important

zhè gè kě yǐ zhè me jiǎng

这个可以这么讲

This can be said like this

jiù shì wǒ suǒ jīng lì de hěn duō de fǎng tán

就是我所经历的很多的访谈

Is the many interviews I have experienced

yóu qí miàn duì xián yí rén de shí hòu fàn zuì rén de shí hòu

尤其面对嫌疑人的时候犯罪人的时候

Especially when facing suspects and criminals

nǐ měi tán yī gè rén de shí hòu

你每谈一个人的时候

Every time you talk to someone

nǐ dōu yǒu yī gè zuì dà de gǎn kǎi

你都有一个最大的感慨

You have the biggest emotion

yě jiù shì shuō

也就是说

In other words

tā zài qiǎng bǎo dāng zhōng kě néng bù yī dìng suàn yī gè

他在襁褓当中可能不一定算一个

He may not necessarily be one of the infants

jiù shì nǐ néng yù cè tā jiù shì kěn dìng fàn zuì

就是你能预测他就是肯定犯罪

If you can predict that he is sure to commit a crime

dāng rán wǒ yě rèn wèi yǒu xiē rén de zhǎng xiāng

当然我也认为有些人的长相

Of course I also think that some people’s looks

jù yǒu yī xiē fàn zuì de tè zhēng

具有一些犯罪的特征

Has some criminal characteristics

dàn shì jué dà duō shù de fàn zuì rén bù shì zhè yàng

但是绝大多数的犯罪人不是这样

But most criminals are not like this

nà me tā zěn me yàng fā zhǎn dào jīn tiān zhè yī bù

那么他怎么样发展到今天这一步

So how did he develop to this point

wǒ xiǎng dà jiā rú guǒ shàng wǎng huò zhě shuō zài

我想大家如果上网或者说在

I think if you go online or say

kàn wǒ yǐ wǎng de diàn shì

看我以往的电视

Watch my previous TV

dōu huì kàn dào zhè gè wèn tí jiù shì

都会看到这个问题就是

Will see this question is

wǒ duì gōng zhòng jiǎng de zuì duō de

我对公众讲的最多的

What I tell the public most

jiù shì rén de zǎo nián de fǔ yǎng

就是人的早年的抚养

It's the early raising of people

nà me gāng cái wǒ jiǎng de

那么刚才我讲的

So what I just said

yǒu xiē fàn zuì rén tā què shí yǒu yī xiē miàn xiāng

有些犯罪人他确实有一些面相

Some criminals do have some faces

dàn shì zhè gè miàn xiāng yǒu shí hòu nǐ hěn nán shuō

但是这个面相有时候你很难说

But sometimes it’s hard for you to tell

bǐ rú shuō yǒu xiē rén de miàn xiāng ba

比如说有些人的面相吧

For example, the faces of some people

wǒ jué dé tā yào rú guǒ néng dāng bīng

我觉得他要如果能当兵

I think if he can be a soldier

kě néng shì yī gè hěn hǎo de dǎ zhàng de liào

可能是一个很好的打仗的料

May be a good material for war

dàn kě xī tā méi dāng bīng

但可惜他没当兵

But unfortunately he didn't serve

zuì hòu tā chéng le bào lì fàn

最后他成了暴力犯

In the end he became a violent criminal

suǒ yǐ yǒu de shí hòu tā de yí chuán shì yǒu yī diǎn diǎn xiāng guān

所以有的时候他的遗传是有一点点相关

So sometimes his inheritance is a little bit related

dàn shì ne bìng bù jué dìng tā fàn bù fàn zuì

但是呢并不决定他犯不犯罪

But it does not decide whether he committed a crime

ér jué dìng tā fàn bù fàn zuì de

而决定他犯不犯罪的

And decide whether he committed a crime

wǒ rèn wèi gèng zhòng yào de yuán yīn shì hòu tiān

我认为更重要的原因是后天

I think the more important reason is the day after tomorrow

ér zhè gè hòu tiān huà tí ne jiù fēi cháng duō le

而这个后天话题呢就非常多了

And this acquired topic is very much

suǒ yǐ wǒ zài yán jiū fàn zuì xīn lǐ dāng zhōng wǒ fā xiàn

所以我在研究犯罪心理当中我发现

So when I was studying criminal psychology, I found

yǒu yī bù fēn rén shì zuì kě pà de

有一部分人是最可怕的

Some people are the scariest

shén me yàng de rén zuì kě pà ne

什么样的人最可怕呢

What kind of person is the most terrible

jiù xiāng dāng yú wǒ men shēng lǐ shàng de bìng jiào màn xìng jí bìng

就相当于我们生理上的病叫慢性疾病

It is equivalent to our physical disease called chronic disease

màn xìng bìng yǒu yī gè shén me tè diǎn ne

慢性病有一个什么特点呢

What are the characteristics of chronic diseases?

tā bù shì

它不是

It is not

nǐ kàn bìng yī liǎng tiān yī gè yuè bàn nián jiù néng zhì hǎo de

你看病一两天一个月半年就能治好的

You can be cured in one or two days, one month and half a year

kě néng yào nǐ zhōng shēng dài bìng

可能要你终生带病

May make you sick for life

nà me zhōng shēng dài bìng de yǒu xiē bìng ba

那么终生带病的有些病吧

Then there are some sicknesses throughout your life, right?

tā kě néng bù yǐng xiǎng nǐ de shēng huó zhì liàng

它可能不影响你的生活质量

It may not affect your quality of life

nà me wǒ xiǎng fàn zuì yě shì zhè yàng

那么我想犯罪也是这样

Then I think the same goes for crime

yǒu xiē rén ne tā zài zǎo qī yóu yú zhǒng zhǒng wèn tí

有些人呢他在早期由于种种问题

Some people had problems in the early days

zào jiù le tā rén gé shàng de wèn tí

造就了他人格上的问题

Created a problem with personality

zhè gè rén gé shàng de wèn tí tā hěn niǔ qū

这个人格上的问题它很扭曲

This personality problem is distorted

zài nǎ ér ne

在哪儿呢

where is it

zhè gè niǔ qū jiù shì shuō tā de xìng gé shàng yǒu quē xiàn

这个扭曲就是说他的性格上有缺陷

This distortion means that his character is flawed

rán hòu ne tā huì zài shēng huó dāng zhōng lǚ zāo cuò zhé

然后呢他会在生活当中屡遭挫折

Then he will be frustrated repeatedly in life

bǐ rú wǒ men dà jiā dōu zhī dào nián céng jīng yǒu yī xì liè de

比如我们大家都知道2010年曾经有一系列的

For example, we all know that there was a series of

jiù shì kǎn shā yòu ér de àn jiàn

就是砍杀幼儿的案件

It's the case of hacking and killing young children

yǒu zài xué xiào mén kǒu yǒu zài yòu ér yuán mén kǒu

有在学校门口有在幼儿园门口

Yes at the school gate and at the kindergarten gate

dà jiā duì zhè gè wèn tí dāng shí hěn fèn nù

大家对这个问题当时很愤怒

Everyone was very angry about this issue

nà me zhè gè wèn tí ne shí jì shàng wǒ jiǎng

那么这个问题呢实际上我讲

So what about this question actually I said

nǐ zhēn zhèng qù yán jiū nǐ huì fā xiàn

你真正去研究你会发现

If you really study it, you will find

yóu qí dì yī gè àn jiàn fú jiàn nán píng de àn jiàn

尤其第一个案件福建南平的案件

Especially the first case in Nanping, Fujian

tā gēn dà jiā jiǎng de huà shì shén me

他跟大家讲的话是什么

What is he telling everyone

tā shuō tā zài fǎ tíng shàng shuō

他说他在法庭上说

He said he said in court

tā shuō nà liǎng gè rén tài kě hèn le

他说那两个人太可恨了

He said those two people are too hateful

wǒ yīn wèi zhè liǎng gè rén tài kě hèn

我因为这两个人太可恨

I'm so hateful because of these two people

wǒ ná tā men méi bàn fǎ

我拿他们没办法

I can't help them

suǒ yǐ wǒ cái qù kǎn hái zi

所以我才去砍孩子

That's why I went to chop the child

nà me wǒ kǎn hái zi nǐ men huì wèn wǒ wèi shén me

那么我砍孩子你们会问我为什么

Then if I cut the child, you will ask me why

nà wǒ jiù kě yǐ gào sù nǐ zhè liǎng gè rén tài kě hèn le

那我就可以告诉你这两个人太可恨了

Then I can tell you these two people are too hateful

nà me wǒ men lái kàn kàn tā dào dǐ shén me kě hèn

那么我们来看看它到底什么可恨

So let's see what it hates

wǒ men zhī dào zhè gè rén shí jì shàng tā de quē xiàn shì zài nǎ ér ne

我们知道这个人实际上他的缺陷是在哪儿呢

We know where this person is actually his flaws

tā quē xiàn shì yī gè

他缺陷是一个

His flaw is a

zì wǒ rèn zhī shàng de wèn tí

自我认知上的问题

Self-perception problems

wǒ men zhī dào rén gé quē xiàn yǒu hěn duō zhǒng

我们知道人格缺陷有很多种

We know that there are many kinds of personality defects

qí zhōng yǒu yī zhǒng jiào zuò zì liàn

其中有一种叫做自恋

One of them is called narcissism

zì liàn ne zhè zhǒng rén gé quē xiàn wǎng wǎng shì yǎng chū lái de

自恋呢这种人格缺陷往往是养出来的

Narcissism is often a result of personality defects

yě jiù shì shuō wǒ men cóng xiǎo jiù kuā tā

也就是说我们从小就夸他

In other words, we have praised him since childhood

yī zhí jiù shuō nǐ zhēn bàng nǐ zhēn měi nǐ zěn me zěn me hǎo

一直就说你真棒你真美你怎么怎么好

I keep saying you are awesome, you are beautiful, how can you be good

ér qiě zhōu wéi rén ne zhǐ kuā bù shuō bié de

而且周围人呢只夸不说别的

And the people around you just boast about nothing else

nà me zhè gè rén tā yī dìng huì zào chéng yī gè cuò jué

那么这个人他一定会造成一个错觉

Then this person will definitely create an illusion

dāng nǐ dú lì dì zǒu xiàng shè huì

当你独立地走向社会

When you go to society independently

dú lì zǒu xiàng shè huì de shí hòu

独立走向社会的时候

When independent and going to society

nǐ jiù huì zì jǐ miàn lín hěn duō wèn tí le

你就会自己面临很多问题了

You will face many problems yourself

dàn shì yīn wèi nǐ qián miàn yǒu yī gè zì wǒ rèn zhī zhàng ài

但是因为你前面有一个自我认知障碍

But because you have a self-cognition disorder in front of you

dāng nǐ miàn duì shè huì de shí hòu

当你面对社会的时候

When you face society

nǐ hái huì yǒu zì wǒ rèn zhī zhàng ài shén me ne

你还会有自我认知障碍什么呢

What else do you have self-cognition disorder?

yīn wèi wǒ men zhī dào chéng nián rén dà jiā shuō huà jiù gèng kè tào le

因为我们知道成年人大家说话就更客套了

Because we know that adults talk more politely

shuō lǐng dǎo nín zhè zhēn yīng míng

说领导您这真英明

You are so wise to lead you

nǐ qiān wàn lǐng dǎo nǐ bù yào dāng zhēn a

你千万领导你不要当真啊

You must lead you not to take it seriously

nǐ bù yào jué dé nǐ zhēn de hěn yīng míng

你不要觉得你真的很英明

Don't think you are really wise

rú guǒ rén shuō měi nǚ nǐ zhēn piāo liàng

如果人说美女你真漂亮

If people say you are beautiful

nǐ shuō xiè xiè jiù zú gòu le

你说谢谢就足够了

It's enough for you to say thank you

yīn wèi piāo liàng de hěn duō nǐ nà gè piāo liàng zhǐ shì ér yǐ

因为漂亮的很多你那个漂亮只是而已

Because a lot of beautiful you are just that beautiful

jiù shì wǒ men zhī dào chǎng miàn de huà duì ba

就是我们知道场面的话对吧

If we know the scene, right

rú guǒ nǐ yào rén jiā shuō yī jù huà

如果你要人家说一句话

If you want someone to say something

nǐ zhēn de tè dāng zhēn

你真的特当真

You really take it seriously

zhè gè shì ér nǐ jiù huì chū xiàn jiào rèn zhī cuò wù

这个事儿你就会出现叫认知错误

You will have a cognitive error in this matter

rán hòu nǐ jiù huì chū xiàn yī xì liè de wèn tí

然后你就会出现一系列的问题

Then you will have a series of questions

nà me zhè zhèng mín shēng yě shì zhè yàng

那么这郑民生也是这样

So this is the same with Zheng Minsheng

tā zài wèi shēng zhàn gōng zuò

他在卫生站工作

He works at a health station

rén jiā jiù kuā tā shuō a ya zhèng yī shēng nǐ de yī shù zhēn hǎo

人家就夸他说啊呀郑医生你的医术真好

People praise him and say ah, Dr. Zheng, your medical skills are really good

měi cì nǐ yī kàn bìng wǒ men jiù hǎo le

每次你一看病我们就好了

Every time you see a doctor, we get better

tā zhēn jué dé zì jǐ jiù hěn hǎo

他真觉得自己就很好

He really feels good

hòu lái wǒ men zhī dào tā gàn ma ne

后来我们知道他干嘛呢

Later we knew what he was doing

tā bǎ zì jǐ de wèi shēng zhàn cí diào le

他把自己的卫生站辞掉了

He quit his health station

rán hòu tā xiǎng dào dà yī yuàn qù

然后他想到大医院去

Then he wanted to go to the big hospital

nà me dà yī yuàn bù yào tā yú shì tā shī yè le

那么大医院不要他于是他失业了

The big hospital didn't want him so he was unemployed

rán hòu dì èr gè wèn tí jiù shì tā ài shàng yī gè nǚ de

然后第二个问题就是他爱上一个女的

Then the second question is that he fell in love with a woman

tā jué dé wǒ zhǎng zhè me piāo liàng nǐ men tiān tiān dōu kuā wǒ

他觉得我长这么漂亮你们天天都夸我

He thinks I am so beautiful and you praise me every day

wǒ yào ài nǐ de huà nǐ yīng gāi hěn xìng fú duì ba

我要爱你的话你应该很幸福对吧

If I want to love you, you should be very happy, right

jié guǒ tā xiàng rén biǎo bái de shí hòu

结果他向人表白的时候

When he confessed to others

rén jiā yī cì yī cì dì jù jué

人家一次一次地拒绝

People refused again and again

nà me rén jiā jù jué

那么人家拒绝

Then they refuse

rén jiā nǚ xìng hái hěn wēn róu

人家女性还很温柔

Other women are very gentle

rén jiā bù hǎo yì sī zhí jiē jù jué tā

人家不好意思直接拒绝他

I am embarrassed to reject him

rén jiā zuì duō shuō wǒ pèi bù shàng nǐ

人家最多说我配不上你

People say I don't deserve you at most

nǐ bù yào zhǎo wǒ duì ba

你不要找我对吧

You don't want me, right

jié guǒ tā jué dé wǒ kàn dé shàng nǐ

结果他觉得我看得上你

In the end he thinks I can see you

nǎ yǒu nǐ pèi bù shàng wǒ de wèn tí

哪有你配不上我的问题

How can you not be worthy of me

yú shì tā yī ér zài zài ér sān zhuī

于是他一而再再而三追

So he chased again and again

nà me zhè nǚ de hòu lái rěn wú kě rěn le

那么这女的后来忍无可忍了

Then this woman couldn't bear it later

zuì hòu jiù gào sù nà gè wèi shēng zhàn zhàn zhǎng shuō

最后就告诉那个卫生站站长说

Finally, I told the head of the health station

má fán nǐ gào sù nǐ men nà gè zhèng yī shēng

麻烦你告诉你们那个郑医生

Could you tell you that Doctor Zheng

bù yào ràng tā zài zhǎo wǒ le

不要让他再找我了

Don't let him find me again

wǒ duì tā zhēn de méi yǒu zhè gè yì sī

我对他真的没有这个意思

I really don't mean this to him

rán hòu zhè gè zhàn zhǎng jiù gào sù tā shuō

然后这个站长就告诉他说

Then the webmaster told him

nǐ zěn me zhè yàng

你怎么这样

Why are you doing this

rén jiā duì nǐ méi nà yì sī nǐ kàn bù chū lái ma

人家对你没那意思你看不出来吗

People don't mean you that way, can't you tell?

zhèng mín shēng yī xià shī luò le

郑民生一下失落了

Zheng Minsheng was lost

yě jiù shì shuō tā zhěng gè jué dé zhè gè luò chà tài dà le

也就是说他整个觉得这个落差太大了

In other words, he felt that the gap was too big

suǒ yǐ tā hòu lái zài fǎ tíng shàng shuō nà gè huà

所以他后来在法庭上说那个话

So he said that in court later

yīn wèi zhè liǎng gè rén tài huài

因为这两个人太坏

Because these two are too bad

wǒ ná tā men méi yǒu bàn fǎ

我拿他们没有办法

I can't help them

suǒ yǐ wǒ zhǐ yǒu qù shā hái zi

所以我只有去杀孩子

So I have to kill the child

wǒ shā le hái zi nǐ men huì wèn wǒ wèi shén me

我杀了孩子你们会问我为什么

I killed the child and you will ask me why

wǒ kě yǐ gào sù nǐ tā men liǎng gè tài huài le

我可以告诉你他们两个太坏了

I can tell you the two of them are too bad

yóu cǐ wǒ men kě yǐ kàn dào fàn zuì xīn lǐ de wèn tí

由此我们可以看到犯罪心理的问题

From this we can see the problem of criminal psychology

suǒ yǐ jīn tiān shí jiān de wèn tí

所以今天时间的问题

So the question of time today

gēn dà jiā liáo le zhè xiē ba

跟大家聊了这些吧

Talked about this with everyone

zhè ràng wǒ men kě yǐ kàn dào

这让我们可以看到

This allows us to see

zhè gè xīn lǐ wèn tí ne shí jì shàng shì rén de yī xiē

这个心理问题呢实际上是人的一些

This psychological problem is actually human

lèi shì yú shēng lǐ jí bìng

类似于生理疾病

Similar to physiological diseases

tā jì yǒu màn xìng de yě yǒu jí xìng de

它既有慢性的也有急性的

It is both chronic and acute

gāng cái tí dào de yào jiā xīn tā jiù shǔ yú jí xìng de

刚才提到的（药家鑫）他就属于急性的

(Yao Jiaxin) mentioned earlier, he is acute

ér zhè gè rén gé wèn tí

而这个人格问题

And this personality issue

tā zé shì màn xìng de

它则是慢性的

It is chronic

nà me zhè liǎng zhǒng wèn tí ne

那么这两种问题呢

What about these two problems

wǒ men zhēn zhèng yào jiě jué de huà

我们真正要解决的话

What we really want to solve

yě jiù shì shuō yù fáng fàn zuì jiǎn shǎo wēi hài

也就是说预防犯罪减少危害

That means preventing crime and reducing harm

zuì zuì zhòng yào de shì yào wǒ men pǔ jí xīn lǐ xué de zhī shí

最最重要的是要我们普及心理学的知识

The most important thing is to popularize the knowledge of psychology

ràng dà jiā zhī dào

让大家知道

Let everyone know

rén jīn tiān de xíng wèi yī dìng hé tā de guò qù yǒu guān

人今天的行为一定和他的过去有关

A person’s behavior today must be related to his past

suǒ yǐ yǒu shí hòu wǒ kāi wán xiào zhǎo duì xiàng ba

所以有时候我开玩笑找对象吧

So sometimes I joke to find someone

nǐ yào xiǎng le jiě yī gè rén

你要想了解一个人

You want to know someone

nǐ bù yòng wèn tài duō nǐ jiù wèn tā de guò qù wèn tā de jiā tíng

你不用问太多你就问他的过去问他的家庭

You don’t have to ask too much, just ask his past, ask his family

nǐ bǎ zhè gè wèn tí le jiě qīng chǔ le

你把这个问题了解清楚了

You understand this problem clearly

nǐ jiù le jiě tā de xiàn zài

你就了解他的现在

You understand him now

nà me zhè gè shí jiān wèn tí wǒ jiù jiǎng dào zhè ér

那么这个时间问题我就讲到这儿

Then I will stop here

xiè xiè dà jiā

谢谢大家

thank you all

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